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THE PRAYER OF THE CELLS IN THE BODY
You said there is a progress?
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(long silence)
(silence)
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Yes, in fact I wanted to ask you what this realization of 1926 was.
But in what sense did this realization mark a turning point in Sri Aurobindo's sadhana?
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It is only when the Supramentalmanifests in the body-mind that its presence can be permanent. [[Mother's translation from the French. ]]
Mother
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(Message from Mother)
(Mother gives Satprem her latest message)
"Sri Aurobindo does not belong to any onecountry but to the entire earth. His teaching leads us towards a better future."
(Then Mother listens to Satprem read a letter from a disciple who had felt a specially strong descent of force and was asking it it was related to the new year.)
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On March 19 during the translation class
the inner voice said:
Hold yourself straight
and the body sat up and held itself absolutely straight during the entire class.
1. The following text was given by Mother in both French and English.
2. Later added by Mother
3. Note written by Mother in French At this period, Mother's back was already bent. This straightening of her back seems to be the first physiological effect of the 'Supramental Manifestation' of February 29, which is perhaps the reason why Mother noted down the experience under the name 'Agenda of the Supramental Action on Earth.' It was the first time Mother gave a title to what would become this fabulous document of 13 volumes. The experience took place during a 'translation class' when, twice a week, Mother would translate the works of Sri Aurobindo into French before a group of disciples.
page 69 , Mother Agenda , vol - 1 , 1951-1960 , 19th March - 1956
Seigneur, Dieu de la Verite victorieuse!
Lord, God of victorious Truth!
Like a triumph. But I didn't write that one down because I did not want to spoil my impression.
Of course, these things should not be published. We can file them in this Agenda of the Supramental Manifestation for later on. Later on, when the Victory is won, we shall say, 'If you want to see the curve ... '
page 194 , Mother's Agenda , volume 1 , 16th Spet - 1958
Why!
There may be additions, but there are also some questions.
No, no, not delete! But sometimes I haven't quite grasped something, or else I've had to interpret because you made a gesture or....
There are a few points like that in all these texts. It's up to you whether I read only those points or....
No, I really don't agree! Objectively speaking, it's extremely instructive to see the difficulties you have passed through.
To be published now, yes - but what about fifty years from now? ...
Come on!
Of course I do! The whole path is there....
But it will, Mother!
Listen, I'm already all white at the temples!
No, I don't like beards.
I would rather shave everything off.
But really Mother, objectively, there's a tremendous number of interesting things in it....
(Satprem voices various complaints, then adds.) And then to top it off, the other day you tell me this Agenda isn't interesting either, that it's not worth keeping. So what am I doing here?
Your Agenda.
Oh, you said it didn't interest you....
Yes. You sure did!
No, obviously not. But you said it didn't interest you and it should be filed away in a corner or I don't know what. So what am I doing here?
Yes, it's certainly not publishable right now.
No, you even told me that if you happened to go you would leave a note saying it shouldn't be published.
Well, that's different.
Of course.
I fully agree! But you said (at least I thought you did) that you would systematically file this Agenda away, that it would never even be at the disposal of those interested in the Work.
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(Mother first reads out for All India Radio the message she
intends to broadcast for February 21, 1968, on the occasion
of her ninetieth birthday.)
(Mother reads)
(Mother records a message in French for All-India Radio.)
We want to be messengers of light and truth.
And first of all, a future of harmony is waitingto be announced to the world. The time has come for the old habit of ruling through fear to be replaced with the rule of love.
(Satprem reads)
"We want to be messengers of Light and Truth. A future of harmony awaits to be announced to the world."
(Mother reads her message for Indian radio.)
"True liberty is an ascending movement, not yielding to the lower instincts.
The radio station wants someone to speak on "Sri Aurobindoand brotherhood or human unity."
Is that what you want?
Ten minutes.
It's long! Ten minutes is long!
(Text for "All-India Radio" on the occasion
of Sri Aurobindo's centenary.)
SRI AUROBINDO AND THE EARTH'S FUTURE
"Nor let worldly prudence whisper too closely in thy ear," says Sri Aurobindo, "for it is the hour of the unexpected."[[The Hour of God, XVII.1. ]]
Pondicherry, 9 December 1971 Satprem
There's also the message you gave All India Radio for August 15:
"The message from Sri Aurobindo is a sunshineradiating over the future."
And for the darshan here [of August 151, do you have a message?
(after a silence)
"Sri Aurobindo's message radiates over the futurelike an immortal sun."
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Aphorism 62 - I heard a fool discoursing utter folly and wondered what God meant by it; then I considered and saw a distorted mask of truth and wisdom.
Is there really no such thing as utter stupidity or absolute falsehood? Is there always a truth behind?
63 - God is great, says the Mahomedan. Yes, He is so great that He can afford to be weak, whenever that too is necessary.
64 - God often fails in His workings; it is the sign of His illimitable godhead.
65 - Because God is invincibly great, He can afford to be weak; because He is immutably pure, He can indulge with impunity in sin; He knows eternally all delight, therefore He tastes also the delight of pain; He is inalienably wise, therefore He has not debarred Himself from folly.
68 - The sense of sin was necessary in order that man might become disgusted with his own imperfections. It was God's corrective for egoism. But man's egoism meets God's device by being very dully alive to its own sins and very keenly alive to the sins of others.
I quite understand. But when one speaks of the Lila, the divine play, it implies that He in some way remains in the background and doesn't really 'get into the act,' as they say - that He's no really part of the game, but simply watches.
Very good! (Mother laughs) That's very good.
It's very good for everyone, isn't it?
Especially for those who think they're so superior.
But it really does correspond to something very deep.
This is exactly the experience I have been going through these past few days; since the day before yesterday it seems to have reached its peak, and this morning it developed into a comprehensive vision, an earth-encompassing vision.
It's almost like a reversal of attitude.
Actually, people have always taken themselves for victims hounded by adverse forces - the courageous fight back, the rest lament. But increasingly there has been a very concrete vision of the role the adverse forces play in the creation, of their almost absolute necessity as goads to make the creation progress and become its Origin again. And there was such a clear vision that one should accomplish one's own transformation - that's what we must pray for, what we must work out - rather than demand the conversion or abolition of the adverse forces.
And this is all from the terrestrial, not the individual standpoint (for the individual standpoint, it's quite clear): I am speaking from the terrestrial standpoint.
And there was the sudden vision of all the error, all the incomprehension, all the ignorance, all the darkness and - even worse - all the ill will in the earth's consciousness, which felt responsible for the prolongation of those adverse forces and beings and offered them up in a great ... it was more than an aspiration, it was a sort of holocaust, so that the adverse forces might disappear, might no longer have any reason to exist, no longer need to be there to point out all that has to change.
The adverse forces were necessitated by all these negations of the divine life. And this movement of earth consciousness towards the Supreme, the offering of all these things with such extraordinary intensity, was a kind of reparation so that those adverse forces might disappear.
The experience was very intense. It crystallized around a small nucleus of experiences too personal to mention (because I wasn't the only one involved), which translated into this: "Take all my wrongdoings, take them all, accept them, obliterate them, and may those forces disappear."
That's essentially what this aphorism says, seen from the other end. So long as a single human consciousness carries the possibility of feeling, acting, thinking or being in opposition to the great divine Becoming, it is impossible to blame anyone else for it; it is impossible to blame the adverse forces, which are kept in the creation as a means of making you see and feel how far you still have to go.
It was like a memory,[[ Questioned about the meaning of these words, Mother said, "The state I was in was like a memory." ]] an eternally present memory of that consciousness of supreme Love emanated by the Lord onto earth - INTO earth - to draw it back again to Him. And truly it was the descent of the very essence of the divine nature into the most total divine negation, and thus the abandonment of the divine condition to take on terrestrial darkness, so as to bring Earth back to the divine state. And unless That, that supreme Love, becomes all-powerfully conscious here on Earth, the return can never be definitive.
It came after the vision of the great divine Becoming.[[ See conversation of January 12, 1962. ]] "Since this world is progressive," I was wondering, "since it is increasingly becoming the Divine, won't there always be this deeply painful sense of the nondivine, of the state that, compared with the one to come, is not divine? Won't there always be what we call 'adverse forces,' in other words, things that don't harmoniously follow the movement?" Then came the answer, the vision of That: "No, the moment of this very Possibility is drawing near, the moment for the manifestation of the essence of perfect Love, which can transform this unconsciousness, this ignorance and this ill will that goes with it into a luminous and joyous progression, wholly progressive, wholly comprehensive, thirsting for perfection."
It was very concrete.
And it corresponds to a state where you are so PERFECTLY identified with all that is, that you concretely become all that is antidivine - and so you can offer it up. It can be offered up and really transformed through this offering.
This sort of will in people for purity, for Good (which in ordinary mentality is expressed by a need to be virtuous) is actually the GREAT OBSTACLE to true self-giving. It's the root of Falsehood, the very source of hypocrisy: the refusal to take up one's share of the burden of difficulties. And that's what Sri Aurobindo has touched on in this aphorism, directly and very simply.
page 46-47 - Mother's Agenda, volume 3, 21st Jan. - 1962
Yes, but how do you cover the whole target?
The knowledge referred to here is intellectual or spiritual, but for the supramental yoga, knowledge is... what kind of knowledge is it? A knowledge in the body, a physical knowledge?
Yes, but for this knowledge to really have a transformative power...?
But these are all psychological transformations. What is the knowledge needed to transform Matter, the body?
Is it another kind of knowledge?
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I wrote in my book that Paul Richard intended to bring out simultaneously in Paris a 'Review of the Great Synthesis.' Is this true? [[Satprem no longer remembers the source of this false information. ]]
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Sri Aurobindo
16 February 1934
By the way, are finances better?
But how to find the way to be what you should be in ordinary conditions?
Yes, to live normally, to be free.
Yes, I've noticed that in the extreme difficulty of the world's external conditions, the aspiration is far more intense.
It's far more intense, it's almost a question of life and death.
(A disciple has written an article on the Ashram's future in
which she said in particular, "The Ashram will become an occult
center, a select collectivity....")
Sri Aurobindo (25.238-239),
October 12, 1929
(The following example, among many others, was deliberatelychosen as innocuous, so as to make the intention behind these cuts better understood. The censored passage is italicized.)
9 September 1936
(Mother holds out a note)
"You seem to forget that, by the very fact that youlive in the Ashram, you work neither for your selves nor for an employer, but for the Divine. Your life must be a consecration to the divine Work and cannot be governed by petty human considerations."
Would you like to publish it, or have it posted up?
(Sometime in August the message that follows was circulated
in the Ashram and Auroville, and published in an Ashram
periodical. It is interesting to note that the text is an alteration
of a much older original text that Mother had given to Satprem.
The original text is included afterwards.)
(original manuscript)
!!!
How can this be, Mother? For so many years we have kept allyour recordings private and nobody knew anything, and now they are on public display - and in an incorrect transcription moreover.
But, Mother, how did they get out of here?
(Sujata, taken aback) I feet very distressed. The Ashram belongs to Mother....
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(A little later, the conversation turns to the events of February 11, when during Satprem's absence the Ashram was attacked by rioters and several buildings were looted and set on fire.)
Many things have happened in the last month or two....
The "true physical" Sri Aurobindo spoke of?
(Sujata:) That evening, N.S., too, ran barefoot on glass splinters, and nothing happened to him.
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Auroville's Charter
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And you will be there, in the center?
You mean the disciples will remain here.
A satellite.
So, Auroville is meant more for the outside.
Much will depend on those you will entrust with the financial organization of the project.
page 139-145 , Mother's Agenda , volume 6 , 23rd June - 1965
(Later, regarding a letter from the Raymonds, friends of Pavitra'sand the architects who built "Golconde," the Ashram's guest house.)
Practically, is it moving?
You speak of the imminence of a catastrophe, but still Auroville will take some time to be realized?
"Humanity is not the last rung of terrestrial
creation. Evolution continues and man will be
surpassed. It is for each one to know whether he
wants to participate in the advent of the new
species. For those who are satisfied with the
world as it is, Auroville obviously has no raison
d'être."
(Then Mother shows two notes on Auroville.)
"Auroville is the shelter built for all those
who want to hasten towards a future of
knowledge, peace and unity."
(About an Indian disciple from South Africa who has been
jailed for a few months in Syria under the pretext
that his banknotes were counterfeit.)
(Mother extracts from a heap of papers, letters and envelopes
of all kinds, a note on Auroville, which was based on her
words but written from memory.)
Auroville's Charter (G.)
1. Auroville is the first crucible of planetary man.
2. Auroville offers itself to discover the deep sources of man's unity with the universe, of knowledge in joy and love.
3. Everything in Auroville belongs to the whole earth and Auroville's members are all the beings of the earth. 4. This day, Auroville is solemnly dedicated to serve forever the union of heaven with earth and life.
Auroville's Dedication (Y.)
1. We solemnly found this city as the first center of a planetary society ...
... tomorrow's society. 2. We solemnly dedicate this city as the constantly renewed synthesis of the latest conquests of science and the most ancient wisdom. 3. We solemnly set as the chief function of this city the planetary ...
... destiny, that this city may become the cradle onew humanity.
(Mother unrolls a big parchment on her windowsill, facing the
Samadhi. Perched on a low stool and armed with a huge black
felt-pen that draws cuneiform-like letters, she starts copying
Auroville's Charter while commenting on it.)
(Mother steps down from her stool)
(Auroville, the free international township.No army, no police.)
The word is too subject to misuse. It would be better not totalk about it.
Yes, they're afraid of it.
I find her paper noxious, because not only does it say nothing,it also opens the door to ambiguities. And it says nothing: the hippies too are the "sons of love," it's their great doctrine.
1. Auroville belongs to nobody in particular. Auroville belongs to humanity as a whole. But to live in Auroville one must be a willing servitor of the Divine Consciousness.
2. Auroville will be the place of an unending education, of constant progress, and a youth that never ages.
3. Auroville wants to be the bridge between the past and the future. Taking advantage of all discoveries from without and from within, Auroville will boldly spring towards future realisations.
(From a conversation between Mother and a disciple
about Auroville.)
We could say that those who get drunk do it to forget; but one
doesn't come to Auroville to forget: one comes to Auroville, on the contrary, to remember.
(Mother holds out a note on Auroville)
(Mother shows a brochure on Auroville; the first photograph
in it shows the all-white urn under a vast sky.)
We will strive to make Aurovillethe cradle of the superman."
"A new consciousness is at work upon earth toprepare the coming of the superhuman being.
"Open yourselves to this consciousness if youaspire to serve [[Mother first wrote "collaborate with," then changed it to "serve" and made a few other minor corrections. ]] the Divine Work.
"To come into contact with this new consciousness, the essential condition is no longer to have any desires and to be wholly sincere."
(Mother hands her note)
"Money is not meant to make money ...
" ... Money is meant to prepare the earth for the new creation."
All that will be very amusing!
"Auroville wants to bethe cradle of the superman.
"Auroville,the free international township.No army, no police ....
Bravo!
"... They are replaced by a battalion of guards, consisting of athletes and gymnasts."
Oh, all this is splendid!
Yes, no army, no police. Oh, yes!
"No customs, but permission to import grantedonly for goods meant to be consumed in the town."
Yes, to avoid smuggling with the rest of India.
Yes, that's fine!
"The earth needs a place where people can live sheltered from all national rivalries, all social conventions, all contradictory moralities and antagonistic religions. A place where, freed from all those slaveries of the past, human beings will be able to wholly dedicate themselves to the discovery and practice of the Divine Consciousness that wants to manifest.
"Auroville wants to be that place, and offers itself to all those who aspire to live tomorrow's truth."
Auroville is the ideal placefor those who want to know the joy and liberation of not having any more personal possession.
No, I haven't seen him.
What does he want to do?
But what does he want to do here?
Did he react to the reading of the "Great Sense"? [[Mother had given him that text. ]]
Oh, he did, he has "savoir-faire," mon petit (!) He said, "It's very beautiful" - in a tone a great conviction! But ... I don't know, I didn't see him enough later on to see whether it had changed his point of view I think it made him shrink back a little, I noticed he inwardly reacted. And what I saw was that it has made him a bit cautious towards me! ... Maybe it made him feel I could see through him! (Mother laughs)
But he is among those people who really aren't bourgeois from the standpoint of money, that is, who don't have much notion of personal property. So then I caught myself (that's how I caught myself!) .... I myself made an effort to reach the viewpoint that money is a force that must circulate and must not be a personal property. In the consciousness, everything is fine, but the body has its old habit, and it observed the state in which this man is: for him money is a force that must circulate, go where it has to go, it doesn't belong to this or that person - so it [the body] first had this reaction: "Oh, watch out, he's an adventurer." (Mother laughs) I caught myself, I said, "See, you preach, and when someone does as you say ...!" I found it very amusing. But I saw how he is enthusiastic about the idea of Auroville, and it seems to be quite sincere, he even said it's what he has been looking for for a long time. So he goes about it "fair and square" .... He was a minister in Persia, but there were revolutions in Persia and he left, he is in America. But he's a man who's used to earning money.
I really caught myself there, I had some real fun. I said to myself, "See, you've come across the man who understands you!" (Mother laughs) It's funny, you know!
This Auroville is going to be a very interesting experience.
At first glance, Auroville isn't made up of people burdened withmorality!
(Mother's latest notes about Auroville)
Who took the initiative of Auroville?
Who is participating in the financing of Auroville?
If one wants to live in Auroville, what does it mean for oneself?
In order to live in Auroville, must one be a student of yoga?
Will family life continue in Auroville?
Can one keep religion in Auroville?
Can one be atheistic in Auroville?
Will there be a social life in Auroville?
Will there be compulsory community activities in Auroville?
Will money circulate in Auroville?
Who will be the owner of lands and buildings?
In which languages will teaching be given?
October 8, 1969
Will a day come when there will be no more poor people and no more suffering in the world?
November 8, 1969
How do you think there will be no more suffering in Auroville - as long as people who come to live in Auroville are men from this same world, born with the same weaknesses and the same faults?
November 9, 1969
What is the fundamental difference between the Ashram's idealand Auroville's?
November 10, 1969
Who will look after the school?
Then I have a letter from Paolo....
Very sweet Mother,
I saw R. on Sunday, he came to my room and. we hadlunch together. With love I arranged beautiful flowers for You and R. You
were with us. We spoke a lot. I felt R. like a brother.
I told him that Auroville cannot be born like any other city (urban, social, economic problems, all of them to be seen later). The starting point must be "something else." That is lever, our fixed point, the thing we can lean on to try and leap to the other side - because it's only from the other side And that Center must be a form manifesting in Matter the content that You can transmit to us on every plane (occult included). As for us, we should only be the open and sincere means through which you can concretise that.
Then I told him how I felt the need for all of us to approach all this while living the experience inwardly and unitedly - people from the East and the West - in a vast movement of love, because it is the only "concrete" possible for building "something else"....
... And that Center can give us that love right now, becauseit's the love of You!
I told him that, on the practical level, we could begin witha moment of silence, gathered together, try to make a complete blank, and in that blank, with everyone's aspiration, bring down the signs for the beginning. But all of us united and together, especially the more spiritually advanced - the Indians.
R. agreed entirely. He said we should really do that.
(Mother nods her head)
The whole structure in white marble?
But Paolo told me one tiling which I felt to be correct. He said,We'll build this Center, we'll put all our heart and aspiration into it, into this Center ...
And over the years, it will get more and more "charged"....
So this Center should be definitive, we shouldn't remove thistemple to build a larger one later on.
But Paolo says that from an architectural standpoint, it's quitepossible to extend the thing from outside without touching what's already built.
Paolo said he would inquire right now in Italy, at Murano wherethey make large crystals, whether they can make a one-foot globe, say, in crystal.
They have big glassworks there.
Two feet four inches.
Yes, Mother.
But the Power is more and more massive, I feel.
Strangely, two days ago it came to me almost like an experience:religion is the mental world.
"... Religions make up part of the history of man kind and it is in this guise that they will be studied at Auroville - not as beliefs to which one ought or ought not to fasten, but as part of a process in the development of human consciousness which should lead man towards his superior realisation."
So then, "Programme" ... [Mother laughs]:
Programme
Research through experience of the
Supreme Truth.
A life divine
but
NO RELIGIONS.
Oh, very fine!... It's only the word "religious" there, it bothers me.
Because you do say, "No religions."
It has taken on such a false meaning.
"Divine"?
"Auroville is for those who want to live a life divine ..."
Yes, "a life essentially divine," yes. "Divine," that's vast, Mother.
(Mother writes)
"Our research will not be a search effected bymystic means. It is in life that we wish to find the divine." [[Let us note that Mother wrote "divine" with a small "d." Later she added this sentence: "And it is through this discovery that life can really be transformed." ]]
(Mother writes her last note on Auroville)
We want the Truth.
For most men, it is what theywant that they label truth.
Aurovilians must want the Truth whatever it may be.
In Auroville, nothing belongs to anyone inparticular. All is a collective property.
To be a True Aurovilian
1. The will to consecrate oneself entirely to theDivine.
2. The Aurovilian must not be a slave to his desires.
Yes, but in the practical order, until people go a little behindappearances and stop living on the surface of themselves, nothing will mean anything!
So the first necessity is to go deep down into themselves, a little.Because even if you tell them "the Divine," what does it mean to their surface consciousness?
Yes. it doesn't mean anything.
In the ideal order, the first condition is to need something otherthan the present world and human conditions.
Then, to reach there, the first condition is to descend deep downin oneself to find out what one IS behind all these hereditary, social, cultural appearances - what one truly is. Then, at that stage, things take on a meaning, but before that they don't mean anything. Before that, they have the meaning given in morality, religion, philosophy - they mean nothing.
It's more than a condition, it's a necessity.
1. The first necessity is the inner discovery so asto find out what one truly is behind all social, moral, cultural ...
Racial?
... racial, hereditary appearances.
In the center, there is a free being, vast andknowing, which awaits our discovery and must become the acting center of our being and our life in Auroville.
There's the second paragraph on desires, and the third would beon personal possession.
At the beginning, you said that Aurovilians have come "to escapemoral conventions, etc., but not to give free rein to licentious ness. ..."
2. One lives in Auroville to be free from moral and social conventions; but that freedom must not be a new slavery to the ego, its desires and ambitions.
If you want to connect this to the other paragraph, might we saysomething like, "Desire is the most powerful distorter of the inner discovery"?
The fulfillment of desire bars the road to theinner discovery, which can only take place in the peace of perfect disinterestedness.
One word comes to me, Mother: not only peace, but transparency.
... in the peace and transparency of perfect disinterestedness.
That's the basis. Then there's the third paragraph. You said, "TheAurovilian must free himself from the idea of personal posses sion. "
3. The Aurovilian must free himself from thesense of personal possession. For our transition in the material world, what is indispensable to our life and action is put at our disposal....
You don't say by whom?
... according to the place we are to occupy.
Mother, I'd like to add: The more we are in contact with ourinner being, the more the exact means are given to us.
The more we are CONSCIOUSLY in contact with our inner being, the more the exact means are given to us.
It gives them the basis.
Wouldn't it be good to do the rest of the "Program for Auroville"with Aurovilians, since you started it?...
4. Work, even manual work, is indispensable tothe inner discovery. If one does not work, if one does not put one's consciousness into matter, it will never develop. To let conscious ness organize some matter through ones body is very good. To put things in order around oneself helps to put things in order in oneself.
One should organize one's life not accordingto external and artificial rules, but according to an organized inner consciousness, because if one leaves life alone without imposing on it the control of a higher consciousness, it becomes hazy and inexpressive. It means wasting one's time, in the sense that matter remains without conscious utilization.
5. The whole earth must prepare for the advent of the new species, and Auroville wants to consciously work to hasten that advent.
6. What this new species is to be will be progressively revealed to us. In the meanwhile, the best way is to consecrate oneself entirely to the Divine.
(Mother hands to Satprem a note that she sent
to an Aurovillian)
"It is the old methods of yoga that demand silence and solitude. The yoga of tomorrow is to find the Divine in work and in contact with the world."
(Mother replies to an Aurovillian:)
(Question:) You said you did not want to make rules forAuroville. But recently you wrote, "Drugs are forbidden in Auroville." Have you changed your view of Auroville?
* * *
(On the occasion of the laying of the first stone of the
Matrimandir on February 21, Satprem had written a letter to
the architect of Auroville.)
I get a lot of requests from all sorts of people, either to say
something or do something or comment on something or.... I feel it's not so good.
One thing or another, a commentary, an explanation, "what doI think of...."
Most of it, yes.
Oh, that, yes!
Yes, that's it. I heard that also. They say, "Work belongs to theold world"...!
I spoke to R. I told him what I thought. I said that work is thefoundation.
It's by being and working in matter that one can bring a littleconsciousness into oneself.
And if there isn't any work, there isn't any transformation.
Oh, yes, that's true!
If you like, I can write.
Oh, you know, in the name of my book they also say that SriAurobindo and Mother are now obsolete, and that in a way my book supersedes all that!
I've heard just about everything.
So, what can I say in the face of such things!?
(Mother laughs)
One even wrote me, "So, Sri Aurobindo didn't have the key tothe superman."
Yes, I'm the one who's given it, you see.
It's bewildering!
Oh, yes!
One doesn't know what to do or say because it's....
Oh, I told them, you know, but still.... I told them theyhad a lot of nerve. And I asked them, "But where do you think I learned what I've written!?"
But of course!
But, Mother, I told R. that the basic mistake is that when thosepeople came here, everything was handed to them: he gave them ready-made houses, they were given all they needed to eat -- they got everything on a silver platter. While these people should have been made to build their own houses and to plant their own potatoes if they wanted to eat; they should have done everything by themselves.
with coolies? One does not make a new world with hired labor!"
Yes, that's my feeling.
To one of them I said, "If I went over there, I'd go with a whip!"
Yes, certainly.... But how can you eliminate that?
Another example: they even have a hired cook to do theircooking, those people!
There's a fundamental flaw in all that, you know.
That's the way it is, you see. They have a hired cook.
Nothing, I don't know, Mother.
I feel R. should organize things in such a way that people are compelled to work.
That way, the sorting out would be done right away.
Yes.
Yes, Mother, it should be done. Because, you see, they are so crafty that they all say they work: they putter around here and there, they go to work on the Matrimandir for half an hour or so.... So, to them, they've "worked." You see, they just putter around.
Yes, Mother.... But R. says, "Mother doesn't want to interfere . Mother doesn't want to make any decisions." But I think perhaps it's up to him to make a decision.
Well, if you tell R., he will see that it's done.
(Mother goes within for a long time)
Mother, it seems to me you could call together those who areresponsible and take some decisions.
If it would help, I can be there.
(long silenceMother goes within)
I really feel it is necessary to start again on a new basis and theentire place must be swept clean of all those people. We have to start afresh in a new location and make them work.
In the meantime they could live in huts, which they wouldbuild themselves.
I mean with thatched roofs.
"I disapprove totally of violence. Each act of violence is a step back on the path leading to the goal to which we aspire. The Divine is everywhere and always supremely conscious. Nothing must ever be done that cannot be done before the Divine."
(some more papers)
(Notes from Mother)
Auroville is intended to hasten the advent of the supramental reality upon earth.
The help of all those who find that the world is not what it ought to be is welcome.
Each one must know if he wants to associate himself with an old world on the verge of death, or to work for a new and better world ready to be born.
The first thing the physical consciousness must realize is that all the difficulties we encounter in life arise from the fact that we do not rely exclusively on the Divine to find the help we need.
The Divine alone can liberate us from the mechanism of universal Nature. And this liberation is indispensable for the birth and development of the new race.
Only if we give ourselves entirely to the Divine with total trust and gratitude will the difficulties be surmounted.
(A message from Mother to some Aurovilians)
From a spiritual point of view, India is theforemost country in the world. Its mission is to give the example of spirituality. Sri Aurobindo came on earth to teach this to the world.
This fact is so obvious, that even a simple,ignorant farmer here is in his heart closer to the Divine than all the intellectuals of Europe.
All those who want to become Aurovilians mustknow that and behave accordingly, otherwise they are unworthy of being Aurovilians.
Fully in agreement.
(Mother gives Sujata the manuscript of a note she wrote
for Auroville.)
"Jesus is one of the many forms the Divine hasassumed to come in contact with the earth. But there are and will be many others. Auroville's children must replace the exclusivism of one religion by the vast faith of Knowledge."
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(Just before the end, Mother comes back to her experience at the balcony:)
It was towards the end of March.
Did something happen on the 4th?
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You haven't spoken of Sri Aurobindo in a long time.
What about Sri Aurobindo, is he saying anything?
But what is India waiting for?
Well, to recognize that country.[[To recognize officially the "provisional government" of Bangladesh under the leadership of Sheikh Mujibur. Only eight months later, on December 6, would India recognize Bangladesh. ]]
No, Mother, she hasn't.
She has expressed her "sympathy," that's all. But she hasn'trecognized it.
Good.... Well, it's about time.
But she shouldn't need America to do that!
I think the whole world is waiting for India to recognizeBangladesh in order to follow suit -- they're waiting for it.
Because a lot of people are dying up there.
Yes. And then every day they send troops [West Pakistan] and tanks and planes.... It seems to me.... I don't know ... there's no time to lose.
But India should have the courage to intervene, Mother.
(Mother goes deep within, then, after
a long time, makes a gesture as if to say, "What can be done?" and goes back within)
What is India doing, Mother?
That's good! Let the Falsehood burst open!
It has to be straightened out once and for all, Mother.
For them it's Pakistan's "internal affair."
But it seems to me that India is too slow in taking an effectivestand to recognize the country.
??... I'm speaking of the official recognition of the government of Bangladesh.
But they said there is a government -- a provisional government.
Already at least 5 or 6 days ago.
Oh, yes.
But I feel that the more India procrastinates or beats aroundthe bush, the more difficult the situation will become for her.
Yes, except that she doesn't want to recognize the government of Bengal officially.
??
!?
It looks as if they're letting that country be crushed withoutdoing anything.
Oh, no, Mother, no one!
No one, Mother! Not a single one.
The people of Bangladesh have sent emissaries to try to securerecognition, but up till now....
But not at all, Mother, I can assure you!... Unless the news is secret, no one has recognized Bengal.
According to the news, Pakistani troops are now recapturingcities, and not only that, but they are sealing off the border with India, so that even secret help that might have been given cannot get through anymore.
Well, that's the official news.
(long silence, the assistant brings Mother's note)
You wrote: "The urgent recognition of Bangla-Desh is impera tive."
There you are, they just haven't listened to you! They're notlistening to you.
No, Mother, it's not done at all!
That, yes! They've formed a provisional government in Bangla desh, but it has not been recognized.
And so the longer they delay, the more impossible it becomesto do anything.
Then it must be a secret recognition, because officially it's notrecognized at all .[[In fact, again on the 18th, the day after this conversation, the president of India, V.V. Giri, in a press interview in which he was spiritedly asked why he still had not recognized Bangladesh, said, "The central government is studying the question whether recognition should be granted to Bangladesh." Then he added, "Our sympathy is with the people of Bangladesh. It is up to the Prime Minister [Indira] and the central cabinet to decide the question." (P.T.I) ]]
At any rate, the fact is that Pakistani troops are recapturing territory and they're trying to set up a provisional pseudogovernment under their control. That's what they're doing. A government of traitors, you know, like Petain [the head of the Vichy government during World War II which collaborated with the Nazis].
(Mother goes within for a long time,then raises her hands)
(Mother goes back within)
Yes, but Pakistani ships off-shore are confiscating everything.
But they're sealing off the borders!... Mother, the fact is thatthey have not listened to you and they have missed the chance -- they are missing it!
But in any case the Chinese are on Pakistan's side. In any case. The Chinese are already there in Pakistan, do you know?
What are they waiting for?
But the government won't budge!
(On December 2, eight months after the bloody repression
in Bangladesh, India launched a general offensive
against the Pakistani troops.)
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I met a man (I was perhaps 20 or 21 at the time), an Indian who had come to Europe and who told me of the Gita. There was a French translation of it (a rather poor one, I must say) which he advised me to read, and then he gave me the key (HIS key, it was his key). He said, 'Read the Gita ...' (this translation of the Gita which really wasn't worth much but it was the only one available at the time - in those days I wouldn't have understood anything in other languages; and besides, the English translations were just as bad and ... well, Sri Aurobindo hadn't done his yet!). He said, 'Read the Gita knowing that Krishna is the symbol of the immanent God, the God within.' That was all. 'Read it with THAT knowledge - with the knowledge that Krishna represents the immanent God, the God within you.' Well, within a month, the whole thing was done!
page 43 , Mother's Agenda , volume - 1 , 1951-1960 , 25th Aug.
One thing struck me: you say that the Gita as Sri Aurobindo explained it is not overmental but supramental....
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I've received a letter from a friend in France who speaks at length of someone who has written three volumes entitled "Gnosis."
That person lives in Switzerland, he's a Russian named B.M. He has a center with disciples. I asked for his photograph and I'd like you to help me understand what type of man he is.
No.
I had the same feeling: a feeling of someone extraordinarily bourgeois.
He has written three volumes entitled "Gnosis."
Yes, from a friend, and as this B.M. seems to be spreading, for my own guidance I wanted to know if he is in good hands or dubious hands.
My friend is an aristocrat, a marquis "of something." But he's no ordinary marquis: he's an adventurer.
He says he has received a Message. He has a Message.
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The other day you were telling me to start this 'Sri Aurobindo' from any point at all....
I don't know. Perhaps I'm biased, but I feel that this book should flow from beginning to end.
Ever since I've known that Sri Aurobindo attached importance to this book, I have been doing a great deal of 'looking.' I told you what I saw the other day, didn't I? ... You asked my advice in choosing the photos and you had picked the one of him in 'meditation' [Sri Aurobindo on his bed after he left his body]. Earlier, I had seen the photo of him young; and while I was looking at it, Sri
... But isn't this second book on Sri Aurobindo something imposed by circumstances? Is it really something that must be done, that already exists and has been decreed?
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How do you mean no one has ever met them?
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Yes, one can say absolutely anything with that kind of reasoning.
Oh, yes, I do understand! I understand that very well!
Oh, I've seen loads of such people, you know!...
(Regarding a text given by Mother for the next "Bulletin")
There is only one solution for falsehood: It is to cure in ourselves all that contradicts in our consciousness the presence of the Divine.
(December 31, 1972)
It means a whole lot of work!
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(The disciple asks for permission to poison some cats who have been disturbing him every night. Mother replies.)
What do these animals represent in the terrestrial manifestation? They're so strange....
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"Because of the necessities of the transformation,
this body may enter a state of trance that will
appear cataleptic....
So it's something that's going to take place.
But Mother, these "instructions" should be given ...
Everyone.
You'll have to make it into a note and give it to those youthink it should be given to.
Yes, of course. They may go and inform the government or...
There will have to be some wisdom in the disciples.
A little wisdom in the disciples.
(Satprem asks Mother what he should do with the text of the
"instructions" of January 14 which Mother gave in the event of
her going into a long period of trance.)
You said just before (if I understood right) that that "state"may last for years. Were you referring to the state of trance?
It's not possible.
The duration of that trance doesn't depend on outward condi tions, on the preparation of the world, for instance?
So you don't envisage the possibility of a long duration - that trance can't be very long?
And the purpose of that trance would basically be to fix thesupramental vibration in the body?
Is that where you envisage the vital's intervention?
I often wonder what the best possible attitude is for us. Is it better to be simply in a state of silence, open to the heights, a wide silence, or...
Or should one have, I don't know, a special concentration inthe activity?
I'll bring you the text of those "instructions."
(Satprem:) In the text of those "Instructions" [in the event of cataleptic trance], you also use the word "injure"; you say that in that trance state, your body will have to be kept "a l'abri de toute injure" [sheltered from all injuries]. But I deliberately left the word, because in the original sense of the French word we speak of the "injures du temps" [the injury or assault of time]. Is that what you'd like to keep in those Instructions?
(Then Mother listens to the English translation of the conve
rsation of September 30, 1966, for the "Notes on the Way." The
subject was the disappearance of the bone structure in the new
being and the need for intermediary stages. Mother, speaking
in English, turns to Nolini:)
(Nolini :) Some will understand.
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(Regarding a Playground Talk of March 17, 1951, published in the latest "Bulletin," in which Mother says that when she returned from Japan in 1920, she felt Sri Aurobindo's atmosphere two nautical miles away from Pondicherry:)
What does it matter!
You answered it was nine point eight hundred and seventy-five miles?!
But what does it matter?!
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No, I have noticed that his arrival triggers something off.
The body-mind
(XXII.340)
But is this the mind the Tantrics use? For instance, when you speak of the "deep blue light" in the physical mind, is it the same cellular mind?
Because it's also through japa, mantras, the awakening of the physical consciousness, that the Tantric power operates.
(Regarding the conversation of August 21 and the experience of the "transfer of power" to the cellular consciousness:)
Is the difficulty of the other day over?
What you are doing.
But how can one in oneself ...
Yes, but I ask how.... Yes, how?
Well, yes!
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There's a practical question I'd like to ask you regarding the subtle physical. I understand the mind centers, which correspond to a particular world, the vital centers, which receive all sorts of influences, but which center corresponds to the subtle physical, and what are the influences coming from the subtle physical? Is there a center that corresponds to the subtle physical?
For the vital it's the navel. The region from the heart to the sex organs, isn't it?
And what are the influences that come from the subtle physical?
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Yes, charity is a horrible thing.
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You spoke last time of putting a body on a vital being. Is that being still alive? Who was it?
I have spoken of this before. I told the story of the Chinese revolution, and how this being left me, saying.... It was just five years before the Chinese revolution. I've told the story.
I know I've told it - but it was never noted down.
I used to dictate. Théon taught me to speak while in trance (that is, he had taught my BODY to express itself), and I would tell him everything I was doing while doing it. And he never noted any of it down - I suspect he did it on purpose: he wasn't interested in making revelations. So it's all lost. But had it been noted down, hour by hour, minute by minute, it would have made an extraordinary scientific document on the occult - extraordinary! He never noted it down.
But that vital being who was given a body - did it live on earth for any length of time?
No, never.
Never?
He stopped at the subtle physical - he refused to go any farther. It was Satan, the Asura [[Asura: demon of the mental plane embodying the forces of division and darkness. ]] of Light who, in cutting himself off from the Supreme, fell into Unconsciousness and Darkness (I've told the story many times). But anyway, when I was with Théon, I summoned that being and asked him if he wanted to enter into contact with the earth. It's worth mentioning that Théon himself was an incarnation of the Lord of Death - I've had good company in my life! And the other one [Richard] was an incarnation of the Lord of Falsehood - but it was only partial. With Théon too it was partial. But with Satan it was the central being; of course, he had millions of emanations in the world, but this was the central being in person. The others ... let's keep that for another time.
He agreed to take on a body. Théon wanted to keep him there: "Don't let him go," he told me. I didn't answer. This being told me he didn't want to be more material than that, it was sufficient - you could feel him move the way you feel a draft, it was that concrete.
And he said he was going to set up the Chinese revolution. "I am going to organize a secret society to set up the revolution in China," he told me. "And mark my words: it's going to happen in exactly five years." He gave me the date and I noted it down.
And EXACTLY five years later, it happened. Later I met people coming from China who told me it had all been the work of a secret society. They told me about it because that society used a certain sign, and instinctively, unknowingly, I had made that sign while one of them was talking to me (Mother puts one fist on top of the other). And the person said, "Ah, so you're one of us! " I didn't reply. Then he told me everything.
But it's really interesting because the exact date was given. "The revolution will take place in exactly five years," he told me. He knew it before he left. "And that," he continued, "will be the beginning, the first terrestrial movement heralding the transformation of...." (Théon didn't use the word "supramental"; he used to talk about "the new world on earth.")[[ The reader will remember the formation of the Kuo-min-tang and the troubles in the Yangtze Valley which took place in October 1911 and led to the fall of the Manchu Dynasty in 1912. Thus it was in October 1906, at Tlemcen, that Mother had the encounter she relates here. It was also in 1906 that Mao Tse-tung, at the age of fourteen, came into conflict with his father, a prelude to his revolutionary career. ]]
But I did note that down.
page 44-45 - Mother's Agenda, volume 3, 15th Jan. - 1962
Do you think there's going to be war?
But for what reason? Why are they doing this?
It's not very clear why.
Yes, but it's still hard to see why they would come here.
Yet it seems quite unlikely they will attack.
Blackmail.
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It seems more likely that the Chinese would be the ones to come here, not the others.
Yes, but still, it seems they would be the ones to come here rather than the Americans or Russians?
Circumstances seem rather...
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(XXIII.753)
(Then Mother reads two letters by Sri Aurobindo which will appear in a future "Bulletin":)
(XXII.13)
(XXII.8)
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(The conversation is cut short at that point by a disciple who comes in to announce his friend Anousuya's death.)
Just now, we just had a call from the hospital.
Take her in you.
The last words she told me yesterday evening were, "Ask Mother to make me sleep."
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(Champaklal hands Satprem the French and English texts of
the Christmas message so Mother can put it
in her own handwriting.)
(Satprem.:) You've put:
We want to show to the world that man can become a true servitor of the Divine. Who will collaborate in all sincerity ?
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(Before going into the music room where Mother will play the organ for the birthday of Sunil, a disciple who is a musician.)
Yes. But you look tired.
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(Regarding the message Mother has given to Satprem
for his birthday.)
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The Manifestation is always said to begin with Sachchidananda: first Sat, pure Existence; then Chit, the awareness of this Existence; and then Ananda, the Delight of Existence which makes it go on. But between Chit and Ananda there is Tapas - that is, Chit realizing itself. And when you become this tapas, this tapas of things, you have the knowledge that gives the power to change.[[ Tapas: literally, heat. It is the concentrated energy constituting everything - not generated by some mechanism, but by the very concentration of the power of Consciousness (chit). In Indian tradition, the world was created by Tapas in the form of an egg - the primordial egg - which broke open from the incubating heat of consciousness-force and gave birth to the world. To "become the tapas of things" is to uncover in one's own material, bodily substance that same formidable, supramental seat of energy (what physicists, following Einstein, call atomic energy: E = mc2), the energy that animates the stone and the bird and the universe - for then like can act upon like. Mother was reaching that point. ]] The tapas of things is what governs their existence in the Manifestation.
You see, I am expressing this for the first time, but I began to live it a while back. When you are THERE, you have a feeling of (what shall I say?) of such formidable power! The universal power, really. You have the sense of total mastery over the universe.
page 93 - Mother's Agenda, volume 3, 24th Feb - 1962
But can these useless things be withdrawn from the Manifestation without causing any catastrophes?
The result of creation is adetailed multiplication of consciousness. When the vision of the whole and the vision of all the details join together within an active consciousness, the creation will have attained its progressive perfection.
Yes Mother, it's been calculated.
Yes, it was calculated: I don't know exactly how many billionsof years - but it's billions of years. [[Four and a half billion years, according to the current estimate. ]] And they have also calculat ed the end!
I think it's still quite far ahead But it appears the end of theearth is scientifically inevitable - because of progressive cooling and changes in the gravitational field. [[It is said that in five billion years the sun will become a "red giant" and burn its planets. The cooling period would come much later. ]]
(Sujata:) Which victory, Mother?
Which is?
Which means the creation will now go consciously towards the Divine?
Eh, Mother? No? Not yet? ... Not quite yet?
You say it will take centuries or even millenniums. But, forinstance, would it not go taster by contagion? No?
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Destroyed?
But then, is it better to be buried or burned?
Do you mean that what you are learning tends to show you that it's not necessarily best to be buried?
(Mother first comments on the death of a disciple, M.)
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Yes, a huge steamship. And strangely, it seemed to be going onthe rocks (which were also black), but without being crushed.
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(On January 18, Mother received the Dalai Lama. It should be
noted that Mother had long ago admitted a number of Tibetan
refugees to the Ashram and Auroville.)
I'd be curious to know what you felt with the Dalai Lama?
What about Tibet, did you see anything - do you see anything for that country?
(Account of the Dalai Lama's visit. The Dalai Lama's questions
were put to Mother by Kireet, the Registrar of the Centre of
Education, who in turn conveyed Mother's answers back to the Dalai Lama.)
(original English)
(Dalai Lama:) It is my dream to have the perfect economicdevelopment of Tibet, the perfect organization, the efficiency that we find in Communism, but all this based upon, founded upon the Buddhistic qualities of Compassion and Love, so that the people in power do not degenerate into corruption. What is Mother's view of this dream, and whether such a thing will be realized in Tibet?
(Kireet:) But the Supramental is now working very powerfully.
(Kireet:) Yes, Mother. The Mother has given the message.
(Dalai Lama:) As for myself, I have no desire to continue inpower in the Government. For I -feel that the Government involves so much of conflicts of parties, and the necessity of taking sides with one party against the other....
(Dalai Lama:) There is good will, there is sincerity among people all over the world, but the number of such people is not large. Will they be able to have an effect to change the condi tions of the world?
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"Sri Aurobindo's message is an immortal sunlight radiating over the future." [[Original English. ]]
That's right. That's much better.
Quite well, Mother.... Mother, you have to give us a message for the Darshan [of April 24].
Beyond man's consciousnessBeyond speechO thee, Supreme ConsciousnessUnique RealityImmutable Truth...
(Mother hesitates and corrects herself)
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Sweet Mother, we have received your answer with joy and send you our reflections and our questions about the first paragraph: "Death is the phenomenon of decentralization and scattering of the cells...."
Abhijit says, "If a cell becomes conscious of its own personality, there is a risk that it may act in its own interest without regard for the collective interest."
Amitangshu asks two questions. The first is, "Does the decentralization take place all at once or in degrees?..."
There's a second question: "Must each cell be conscious of its unity with the center?"
(after a long silence)
Anand Arya asks this: "Does the decentralization always take place after death, or can it begin before?"
Dilip M. asks, "Do the cells scatter in space or within the body? If it is in space, then the body must disappear with the cells?"
Rita asks, "In the phrase 'scattering of the cells,' doesn't the word 'scattering' have a particular meaning? If so, which one?"
But what enters other combinations isn't the cell itself - it's the subtle consciousness of the cells?
What kind of conclusions can be drawn from N.S.'s experience? What does it open the door to, practically speaking?
No, I meant what conclusions for you, for your experience, can be drawn from this episode?
Last time you said, "They are burned, or shut up in a box without air and light - fully conscious...."
But what should be done then? Should people wait, or what?
(Regarding the conversation of March 9: "A few seconds' experience that gave me the sense that the most central problem was solved." That experience was what Mother called "the death of death.")
"One dies only when You will it."
(Regarding an old Playground Talk of January 8, 1951, in which Mother said: "The history of the earth seems to be a history of victories followed by defeats, and not of defeats followed by victories.... [But] in truth, the movements of Nature are like those of the tides: things go forward, then backward, then forward, then backward ... which implies, in universal life, even in earthly life, a progressive advance though apparently broken with retreats. But those retreats are only an appearance, as when you take a run in order to jump. You seem to move back, but it's only to enable you to jump higher. You may tell me that this is all very well, but how do you give a child the certainty that truth will triumph? For when he learns history, he will see that things do not always end well.")
(Mother remains pensive)
It's rather Falsehood that created Death!
It's a dangerous game!
Rita:
Dilip:
Anand:
(Mother laughs heartily)
Abhijit:
(Mother holds out a paper to Satprem)
Sweet Mother, we have received your answer withjoy and send you our reflections and our questions about the first paragraph: "Death is the phenome non of decentralization and scattering of the cells...."
Abhijit says, "If a cell becomes conscious of itsown personality, there is a risk that it may act in its own interest without regard for the collective interest."
Amitangshu asks two questions. The first is, "Doesthe decentralization take place all at once or in degrees?..."
There's a second question: "Must each cell beconscious of its unity with the center?"
Anand Arya asks this: "Does the decentralizationalways take place after death, or can it begin before?"
Rita asks, "In the phrase 'scattering of the cells,'doesn't the word 'scattering' have a particular meaning? If so, which one?"
But what enters other combinations isn't the cell itself - it's thesubtle consciousness of the cells?
( The Synthesis of Yoga, xx.334)
Ah!
Death is the decentralization of the consciousness contained in the body's cells.
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Because what applies to a cold obviously applies to anydisorder, doesn't it?
I mean, it could act with other diseases, too, couldn't it?
It unrealizes it.
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"In the end, what is the Divine?"
"The Divine can be lived, but not defined....
(The Synthesis of Yoga,XXI.III.523)
January 14, 1932
But is there a point THERE that can understand reason?
to exist only for the Divine to exist only by the Divine to exist only to serve the Divine to exist only ... by becoming divine.
To want what the Divine wants in all sincerity is the essential condition for peace and joy in life. Almost all human miseries come from the fact that human beings are almost always persuaded they know better than the Divine what they need and what life is supposed to bring them. The majority of human beings want other human beings to behave according to their own expectations and life circumstances to follow their own desires, hence they suffer and are unhappy.
Only by giving oneself in all sincerity to the Divine Will does one gain the peace and calm joy that arises from the abolition of desires.
The psychic being knows this definitely. Thus, by uniting with our psychic being, we can know it, too. But the first condition is not to be the slave of personal desires and mistake them for the truth of one's being.
February 4
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(Regarding the conversations of August 21 and 28 on the "transfer of power":)
How do you define this physical mind, the one that underwent the transfer of power?
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(Mother holds out
a note to Satprem)
"Never judge on appearances, still less on gossip ....
"The morality of one country is immorality in another ...
"The service of the Divine exacts a sincerity in the surrender unknown to all moralities."
These moralists imagine they're "above," above the fallen condition of "Others," while they're in the same sludge as everyone else!
But if you scratch a little, it's not pretty.
Yes, it's exactly the same thing.
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Yes, but aren't the gods conscious of the Divine?
(silence, with eyes closed)
(This is the season of "pujas," the time of rituals to the
Universal Mother.)
Yes, Mother, if you like.... I'm tempted to ask you if Durga won a victory this year?
(Mother plunges in till the end.Then Sujata draws near her)
Of "Victory," yes.
(Satprem:) Yes, Mother, I hope so! [laughter]
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My mother reached Bombay on that day and felt it. All the dogs were howling; for three seconds houses were shaken.
But it must have been very weak here. I was awake but didn'tfeel anything.
Is there something behind this earthquake?
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Do not try to be virtuous. See to what extent you are united, ONE with all that is antidivine. Take up your share of the burden; accept to be impure and false yourself, and in so doing you will be able to take up the Shadow and offer it. And insofar as you are able to take it and offer it, things will change. [[When Satprem published extracts from this conversation in the Ashram Bulletin of April 1962, Mother had this passage modified (over his protests). Instead of "Do not try to be virtuous," she put "Do not try to seem virtuous"; and she added: "There's a drawback here. People never understand anything, or rather they understand everything in their own way. They would take this sentence as an encouragement to get into mischief, to misbehave, to entertain wrong feelings, and then proclaim, 'We are the Lord's favorites!' ... There was something like it in one of Sri Aurobindo's letters, you remember - a letter to people who wanted to bring all the impurities in themselves out to the surface; he told them that was definitely not the way! " (See Sri Aurobindo's two letters on psychoanalysis in the Addendum.) ]]
Don't try to be among the pure. Accept to be with those who are in darkness and, in total love, offer it all.
From the moment this was seen and DONE, the full power came back - the great creative Power.
Most likely the experience could take place only because the time had come for all this to be offered up.
The point is not to perpetuate those things, but to offer them up.
Because the time has come to manifest this Power, which is a power of Love - of LOVE, not merely of identity - of Love, of perfect Love; for perfect Love alone can offer.
It happened this morning, with great simplicity, but at the same time it had something so vast and almighty in it, as if the Universal Mother were turning towards the Lord and saying, "At last! We are ready."
That was my experience this morning.
Do you mean to say there's been a progress on Earth?
Yes, on Earth; it's the Earth's history that's in question.
page 47-48 - Mother's Agenda, volume 3, 21st Jan. - 1962
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'Essays on the Gita.'
Here is something important. Sri Aurobindo says that everything is involved down here - the mind, the vital, the supermind - and that what is involved evolves. But if everything is involved, including the supermind, what is the need for a 'descent'? Can't things evolve by themselves?
But I don't remember seeing anything that satisfied me.
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(Concerning an old 'Question and Answer' of July 4, 1956 at
the Playground in which Mother speaks of her first realization
of the Divine, in Paris)
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By sea.
What's going to happen?
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Classes!
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It's not at all sweet-smelling.
No, Mother.
What is it?
(As she comes into her room, Mother stops in front of a tray of
flowers that has just been brought and takes in her hand a
strange new variety of hibiscus, gray-mauve with
a bright red pistil.)
Yes, I've never seen it.
Very strange.
You mean there's something false in the flower's appearance?
Inside the flower?
Not very reassuring, this flower.
Yes, it's something like that!
(Sujata gives Mother a flower called "New Birth.")
Being radically different.
Oh, how pretty!
(Sujata:) Yes, Mother, it's like a small flower of immortality.
(Satprem:) Basically, it's the water of life that makes things rot.
(Sujata holds out to Mother a variety of white hibiscus)
(Sujata holds out to Mother
a variety of white hibiscus)
Fifty.
(Mother hands Satprem an unusual
"transformation"[[Indian Cork Tree. ]] flower.)
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Just at the last page.
The child of the future
No one ever tells him, "You must."
Yes, it's the parents who should be educated!
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(Sujata:) Food, ever since childhood I haven't liked eating.
I find that all those meats they have given me to "build me up" make me heavy, especially with the hot days starting again. Couldn't I go back to vegetarian food?
We may conceive of a new light or force giving the cells a sort of spontaneous life, a spontaneous strength.
For instance, there is here that old idea of vegetarian food. Some people write to me indignantly that these "holy rules" are being increasingly broken in the Ashram! Someone wrote to me a first time, asking me to answer; I neglected to. So he wrote a second time to tell me, "What can we do if you don't answer?" I answered (they'll probably bite their tongues at my reply), I replied something like this:
"Truth is not a dogma that one can learn once and
for all and impose as a rule. Truth is as infinite as
the supreme Lord and It manifests every instant
for those who are sincere and attentive."
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I wanted to clarify something.... I don't know if Mona Lisa and Marguerite de Valois were your incarnations, but weren't they contemporaries!?...
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(Soon afterwards, Mother talks about her secretaries, who don't do what she tells them to and take too much of her time:)
What?!
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A power greater than that of Evil
can alone win the victory.
It is not a crucified
but a glorified body
that will save the world.
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In this respect, you say somewhere that the gods too must incarnate to become fully conscious.
How is this possible? Aren't the gods already fully conscious?!
Yes, but what about the minor gods? You often speak of a "little Kali" or a "little Durga"; are these beings beneficent?
All that can be asked is how do you see the soul? To see the soul, you must yourself know your own soul.
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(Mother starts sorting innumerable scraps of notes
and stops at this one:)
"For the Government of India, one thing is to be
known: does it want to live for the Future or does
it stick desperately to the past?"
(June 20, 1967)
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(Regarding the New Year message: "Men, countries, continents!
The choice is imperative: Truth or the abyss." A disciple asks
Mother, "What is the meaning of 'abyss' in your New Year
Message?" Mother's reply, in English:)
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- it came to my forehead, which gave me a little protection ... I didn't say anything, I didn't think anything, try anything, want anything - I merely sat near him. When I stood up half an hour later, he had put silence in my head, that's all, without my even having asked him - perhaps even without his trying.
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Yes, but when you read a mantra in a book, for instance, it is said there's no force in it - how is that, since the vibration is there?
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(Mother reads a note she wrote in connection with a quarrel at the Ashram's handmade paper factory:)
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But long ago there was a knowledge like that - all the ancient scriptures mention it.
Yes, I too have quite often thought that someone should come here who....
Who knows something. [[In fact, in the Agenda conversations of 1958 and '59 (never noted by Satprem because he believed them too "personal"), Mother mentioned this as one of the main reasons for encouraging his tantric discipline. He even set out for the Himalayas, like a knight of yore, with the idea of bringing back to Mother the secrets of transformation; and Mother indicated to him the spot where one of her former bodies lay in a Himalayan cave, petrified by a mineral spring. But the secret of the new species can manifestly not be found through any "trick " tantric or otherwise - one's very nature must change. No one could help Mother because if someone "knew," it would already be done. ]]
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I believe you had chosen a photo of Sri Aurobindo in which hewas looking toward the future. I think it's the photo by the Dutch painter.
At a table?
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'All things are attracted to the Divine. Are the hostile forces also attracted to the Divine?'
You know, I can say one thing about this.... There's a type of woman I have met more or less periodically throughout my life. These beings are under the influence, or are incarnations of, or in any case are responsive to forces which Theon called 'passive' - not exactly feminine forces, but on the Prakriti [[Prakriti: Nature or the executive force, as opposed to Purusha, the conscious Soul which sees, knows and creates through its vision. These are the two principles, feminine and masculine, of the universe. ]] side of the universe: the dark Prakriti side (there is an active dark side, the asuric forces, and a passive dark side). And these are terrible beings, terrible! They have wreaked havoc in life. They represent one of the creation's biggest difficulties. And they are attracted to me!
Mon petit, they adore me, they detest me, they would like to destroy me - and individually they CANNOT do without me! They come to me like ... like fireflies to light. And they hate me! They would like to crush me. That's how it is.
I have met five women like that, the last two here (they were the most terrible). It's a phenomenon of hate and rage mixed with love's greatest power of attraction - no sweetness, of course, no tenderness, nothing like that - but NEED, love's greatest power of attraction, mixed with hate. And they cling, you know, and then ... what fun!
I had a session like that some days ago - it's a work I'm pursuing. (Likewise, I have constantly been with the adverse force I once told you about, [[See Agenda of March 26, 1959 (Vol. 1, p. 288): the Titan sent especially to attack Mother's body, and who uses the people around her for this purpose. ]] who keeps incarnating especially to harass me - so there's also this phenomenon, amiably passing from one being to another!) Anyway, not long ago I had given an appointment to this woman and had decided not to say anything - because there was nothing to be done (the most beautiful things go rotten, there's nothing to do). So I remained silent, indrawn, fully in contact with the Supreme Presence, with the external personality annulled (this experience, in fact, lasting almost one hour, is what gave me the key to everything that has been happening lately). There was only the Supreme, nothing else - the Supreme THERE, in that very body, mon petit, in that whole agglomeration and in that apparently absolutely anti-divine influence - HIS Presence was there!
page 413 - Mother's Agenda, volume -2 , 23th Dec. 1961
(Sometime later, when the communication was read to her.)
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(Then Mother sorts out flowers and keeps one aside for the Ashram's cashier.)
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Have you been told that recently in France, some six or sevenstudents have set themselves on fire?
... on fire, and they died.
Seventeen- or eighteen-year-old boys.
Students.
A protest against this suffocating society.
In France.
As far as we've been told, the students who have reacted are froma very average milieu. One of them said it was in protest against the slaughter in Biafra....
In Africa. One entire African tribe (the Ibos) has been halfannihilated with the complicity of the English, the Russians, these and those others and so on.
Because they wanted to secede.
Those territories used to belong to the British, they were unifiedunder the thumb of the British, and when the British left one whole tribe wanted to secede and the other side tried to prevent secession with weapons from Britain, weapons from Russia, weapons ... So little by little they have been crushed. The only country which did protest is France.
Anyway, there's a whole political affair which isn't very pretty.But in the mind of one of those students, it was to "atone for the slaughter in Biafra."
In fact, it is a protest against this society ... this false societywithout future.
Yes, it's ugly.
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THE STATE OF THE NATION
The Mother answers
(A questionnaire from The Illustrated Weekly of India, Republic Day issue of 1964 - original English)
1. If you were asked to sum up, just in one sentence, your vision of India, what would be your answer?
2. Similarly, if you were asked to comment on the reality as you see it, how would you do it in one sentence?
3. What, according to you, are the three main barriers that stand between the vision and the reality?
4. Are you satisfied with the overall progress India has made since Independence? (Yes or No)
5. What is our most outstanding achievement in recent times? Why do you consider it so important?
6. Likewise, can you name the saddest failure? On what ground do you regard it as so tragic?
(November 12, 1963)
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It's like opening a door just a crack and catching a glimpse of what's beyond....
It was the same experience when I told Sri Aurobindo that India was free; it was the Universal Mother speaking from what could be called Her origin - it was from that level - and the thing took thirty-five years to come down on Earth.
When I had the experience that the time had come for the supramental Force to descend on Earth, I followed the effects of that descent, I followed the effects and the consequences in my consciousness. But to ordinary eyes it was something like what happened with India's liberation - it's possible, of course, that the Supermind did come down, but for the moment its effects are more than veiled.
The first rather tangible manifestation was this vision of the boat; with that, things became more concrete, it radically changed something in the attitude.
We're at another stage now.
page 49 - Mother's Agenda, volume 3, 21st Jan. - 1962
But you know, I make a point of reading an Indian newspaper every day.... You get a sense of a great decomposition.
But what's extraordinary is that there's nobody! There's no opposition, there's nothing.
But you get the feeling that in a country like this one, which in spite of everything is receptive, if one great man (I mean, of great spiritual value) arose, everyone would follow. Exactly! They send me delegates, they send me people to ask me, "What should we do?" I told them, "I lack a man." If I had one man, I would see to everything. But I can't do everything myself. page 163-64 , Mother'a Agenda , volume 5 , 14th Aug - 1964
great spiritual value) arose, everyone would follow.
page 163-64 , Mother'a Agenda , volume 5 , 14th Aug - 1964
Mother hands Satprem a brochure, "Spiritual Unity of India," in which quotations from Sri Aurobindo and Mother on the partition of India have been gathered, in particular Mother's declaration: "India must fight until India and Pakistan have once more become ONE.")
But unless outward circumstances COMPEL India to reunite with Pakistan, they won't budge.
The impression is that if India isn't pushed from the outside, isn't forced to re-create this unity, they won't budge.
(Mother tries to remember)
"Let us work ..."
Sujata asks a question. She says: "If India called the Divine,would it not be a more effective way of stopping China?"
(Mother hands the text)
Supreme Lord, Eternal TruthLet us obey Thee aloneand live according toTruth.
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Would you like to win 200,000 dollars?
One has to prove the existence of the soul after death.
"A $ 200,000 reward has been offered to anyone on this earth who can give some scientific proof of a soul of a human body which leaves at death. This was found in the will of James Kidd, an Arizona miner who died in 1951. Lawyers executing the will claim that if no real scientific proof is submitted the money will go to any research institute aimed at proving the existence of the human soul." ["The Hindu," October 26, 1966]
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They have blocked Suez and broken off with the U.S.
Three days ago, Nasser declared that he wanted "the destruc tion of Israel: wiped off the map."
But you know - I have rarely felt that - yesterday there was really something like a prayer for Israel.
You really say to yourself, "This MUST NOT be."
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'Manifest Your Love.'
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page 220 - Mother's Agenda, volume 1, 4th Nov. - 1958
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(Note from Mother to Satprem)
June 3, 1959
page 308 - Mother's Agenda, volume 1, 28th May - 1959
(The day before 'Kali Puja,' the ritual festival devoted each
year in India to the goddess Kali, the warrior aspect
of the universal Mother)
Mahashakti.
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7.9.59
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He said only in 1962 or 1963 would Karachi totally disappear.And three-fourths of Bombay underwater!
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We need a message for the Darshan of the 24th.
(Mother writes with her eyes closed)
Human blindness is suchthat many peopleexpect to attain the Truthwhile keeping the habit of lying.
Oh yes, yes! I completely agree.... Because Falsehood has many levels. [[Satprem was thinking of the subconscious level. ]]
Yes, Mother, I know, I was speaking for myself!
It is imperative not to telllies when one aspiresto the Truth.
Well, it isn't so obvious at all!
Needless to say thatthose who aspire toTruth must abstain fromtelling lies. [[This version will be adopted for the message of April 24. ]] It's the lies of the lower nature that are difficult to ... dispel.
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Yes, what is this "resignation" of Khrushchev going to do? [[The next day, October 16, the Chinese exploded their first atomic bomb. ]]
Does it mean a setback?
It's serious.
I told you I would show you the photo of the man [Suslov] who's behind Khrushchev's downfall.
He's a "theoretician."
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But I often feel it there. I don't know if it's an illusion, but I feelit there much more often than below.
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(While filing various old papers, notes, etc., Mother happens
upon the plan for a film studio at the lake')
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Yes, it's very rigid.
But Auroville's language, let it just be born spontaneously!
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Certainly!
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(The Life Divine, XVIII.231)
No! He says "if" man cannot, it will be a new being.
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"In spiritual life, one is always a virgin every
time ...
"... one is always a virgin every time one
awakens to a new love, for in each case it is a
new part of the being, a new state of being
that awakens to divine Love."
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(Mother leafs through "The Mother" by Sri Aurobindo, then reads:)
(Mother reads again further on:)
You'll tire your eyes....
(Mother reads further on:)
You're tiring your eyes, leave it.
(Mother reads on:)
You're getting tired.
Yes, Maheshwari.
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(Regarding an old Playground Talk of December 4, 1957, in which Mother asked: "Will there be a gradual transition from what we are now to what our inner spirit aspires to become, or will there be a break, will we have to leave our present human form behind until a new form emerges - an emergence whose process we cannot foresee, of a new form without any connection to what we are today? Can we expect this body, our means of manifestation on earth until now, to be transformed progressively into something capable of expressing higher life, or will we have to abandon this form altogether in order to take on another one not yet born on earth?" Mother adds:)
Yes, but will the one be transformed into the other?
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The day man will be like this ...
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What I mean by "experience" is something totally different from what people normally understand. It's something almost ... not new as such but assuming a new reality. It is not "experiencing what one knows" - that's taken for granted, it's banal - but.... We would need another word. Instead of knowing something (even a knowledge far superior to mental knowledge, even a very integral knowledge), you ... become the power that makes it BE.
But you can't put that in.
First Truth, then Love.
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Into a ... ?
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I would very much like to have a 'true mantra.'
I have a whole stock of mantras; they have all come spontaneously, never from the head. They sprang forth spontaneously, as the Veda is said to have sprung forth.
I don't know when it began - a very long time ago, before I came here, although some of them came while I was here. But in my case, they were always very short. For example, when Sri Aurobindo was here in his body, at any moment, in any difficulty, for anything, it always came like this: 'My Lord!' - simply and spontaneously - 'My Lord!' And instantly, the contact was established. But since He left, it has stopped. I can no longer say it, for it would be like saying 'My Lord, My Lord!' to myself.
I had a mantra in French before coming to Pondicherry. It was Dieu de bonté et de miséricorde ... [God of kindness and mercy], but what it means is usually not understood - it is an entire program, a universal program. I have been repeating this mantra since the beginning of the century; it was the mantra of ascension, of realization. At present, it no longer comes in the same way, it comes rather as a memory. But it was deliberate, you see; I always said Dieu de bonté et de miséricorde, because even then I understood that everything is the Divine and the Divine is in all things and that it is only we who make a distinction between what is or what is not the Divine.
My experience is that, individually, we are in relationship with that aspect of the Divine which is not necessarily the most in conformity with our natures, but which is the most essential for our development or the most necessary for our action. For me, it was always a question of action because, personally, individually, each aspiration for personal development had its own form, its own spontaneous expression, so I did not use any formula. But as soon as there was the least little difficulty in action, it sprang forth. Only long afterwards did I notice that it was formulated in a certain way - I would utter it without even knowing what the words were. But it came like this: Dieu de bonté et de miséricorde. It was as if I wanted to eliminate from action all aspects that were not this one. And it lasted for ... I don't know, more than twenty or twenty-five years of my life. It came spontaneously.
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Just recently one day, the contact became entirely physical, the whole body was in great exaltation, and I noticed that other lines were spontaneously being added to this Dieu de bonte et de misericorde, and I noted them down. It was a springing forth of states of consciousness - not words.
Seigneur, Dieu de bonte et de misericorde
Seigneur, Dieu d'unite souveraine
Seigneur, Dieu de beaute et d'harmonie
Seigneur, Dieu de puissance et de realisation
Seigneur, Dieu d'amour et de compassion
Seigneur, Dieu du silence et de la contemplation
Seigneur, Dieu de lumiere et de connaissance
Seigneur, Dieu de vie et d'immortalite
Seigneur, Dieu de jeunesse et de progres
Seigneur, Dieu d'abondance et de plenitude
Seigneur, Dieu de force et de sante.
Lord, God of kindness and mercy
Lord, God of sovereign oneness
Lord, God of beauty and harmony
Lord, God of power and realization
Lord, God of silence and contemplation
Lord, God of light and knowledge
Lord, God of life and immortality
Lord, God of youth and progress
Lord, God of abundance and plenitude
Lord, God of strength and health.
The words came afterwards, as if they had been superimposed upon the states of consciousness, grafted onto them. Some of the associations seem unexpected, but they were the exact expression of the states of consciousness in their order of unfolding. They came one after another, as if the contact was trying to become more complete. And the last was like a triumph. As soon as I finished writing (in writing, all this becomes rather flat), the impetus within was still alive and it gave me the sense of an all-conquering Truth. And the last mantra sprang forth:
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But what is going to come now? I constantly hear the Sanskrit mantra:
OM NAMO BHAGAVATEH*
It is there, all around me; it takes hold of all the cells and at once they spring forth in an ascension. And Narada's mantra, too:
Narayana, Narayana ...
(it is actually a Command which means: now you shall do as I wish), but it doesn't come from the heart.
What will it be?
It will simply spring forth in a flash, all of a sudden, and it will be very powerful. Only power can do something. Love vanishes like water running through sand: people remain beatific ... and nothing moves! No, power is needed - like Shiva, stirring, churning ...
When I have this mantra, instead of saying hello, good-bye, I shall say that. When I say hello, good-bye, it means 'Hello: the Presence is here, the Light is here.' 'Good-bye: I am not going away, I am staying here.'
But when I have this mantra, I believe something will happen.
For the moment, of all the formulas or mantras, the one that acts most directly on this body, that seizes all the cells and immediately does this (vibrating motion) is the Sanskrit mantra: OM NAMO BHAGAVATEH.
As soon as I sit for meditation, as soon as I have a quiet minute to concentrate, it always begins with this mantra, and there is a response in the body, in the cells of the body: they all start vibrating.
1.The first syllable of NAMO is pronounced with a short 'a,' as in nahmo. The final word is pronounced BHA-GAH-VA-TEH.
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This is how it happened: Y had just returned, and he brought back a trunk full of things which he then proceeded to show me, and his excitement made tight, tight little waves in the atmosphere, making my head ache; it made ... anyway, it was unpleasant. When I left, just after that had happened, I sat down and went like this (gesture of sweeping out) to make it stop, and immediately the mantra began.
It rose up from here (Mother indicates the solar plexus), like this: Om Namo Bhagavateh OM NAMO BHAGAVATEH OM NAMO BHAGAVATEH. It was formidable. For the entire quarter of an hour that the meditation lasted, everything was filled with Light! In the deeper tones it was of golden bronze (at the throat level it was almost red) and in the higher tones it was a kind of opaline white light: OM NAMO BHAGAVATEH, OM NAMO BHAGAVATEH, OM NAMO BHAGAVATEH.
The other day (I was in my bathroom upstairs), it came; it took hold of the entire body. It rose up in the same way, and all the cells were trembling. And with such a power! So I stopped everything, all movement, and I let the thing grow. The vibration went on expanding, ever widening, as the sound itself was expanding, expanding, and all the cells of the body were seized with an intensity of aspiration ... as if the entire body were swelling - it became overwhelming. I felt that it would all burst.
I understood those who withdraw from everything to live that totally.
And it has such a transformative power! I felt that if it continued, something would happen, something like a change in the equilibrium of the body's cells.
Unfortunately, I was unable to continue, because ... I don't have the time; it was just before the balcony darshan and I was going to be late. Something told me, 'That is for people who have nothing to do.' Then I said, 'I belong to my work,' and I slowly withdrew. I put on the brakes, and the action was cut short. But what remains is that whenever I repeat this mantra ... everything starts vibrating.
So each one must find something that acts on himself, individually. I am only speaking of the action on the physical plane, because mentally, vitally, in all the inner parts of the being, the aspiration is always, always spontaneous. I am referring only to the physical plane.
The physical seems to be more open to something that is repetitious - for example, the music we play on Sundays, which
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has three series of combined mantras. The first is that of Chandi, addressed to the universal Mother:
Ya devi sarvabhuteshu matrirupena sansthita
Ya devi sarvabhuteshu shaktirupena sansthita
Ya devi sarvabhuteshu shantirupena sansthita
Namastasyai namastasyai namastasyai namo namah
The second is addressed to Sri Aurobindo (and I believe they have put my name at the end). It incorporates the mantra I was speaking of:
Om namo namah shrimirambikayai
Om namo bhagavateh shriaravindaya
Om namo namah shrimirambikayai.
And the third is addressed to Sri Aurobindo: 'Thou art my refuge.'
Shriaravindah sharanam mama.
Each time this music is played, it produces exactly the same effect upon the body. It is strange, as if all the cells were dilating, with a feeling that the body is growing larger ... It becomes all dilated, as if swollen with light - with force, a lot of force. And this music seems to form spirals, like luminous ribbons of incense smoke, white (not transparent, literally white) and they rise up and up. I always see the same thing; it begins in the form of a vase, then swells like an amphora and converges higher up to blossom forth like a flower.
So for these mantras, everything depends upon what you want to do with them. I am in favor of a short mantra, especially if you want to make both numerous and spontaneous repetitions - one or two words, three at most. Because you must be able to use them in all cases, when an accident is about to happen, for example. It has to spring up without thinking, without calling: it should issue forth from the being spontaneously, like a reflex, exactly like a reflex. Then the mantra has its full force.
For me, on the days when I have no special preoccupations or difficulties (days I could call normal, when I am normal), everything I do, all the movements of this body, all, all the words I utter, all the gestures I make, are accompanied and upheld by or lined, as it were, with this mantra:
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OM NAMO BHAGAVATEH ... OM NAMO BHAGAVATEH ...
all, all the time, all the time, all the time.
That is the normal state. It creates an atmosphere of an intensity almost more material than the subtle physical; it's like ... almost like the phosphorescent radiations from a medium. And it has a great action, a very great action: it can prevent an accident. And it accompanies you all the time, all the time.
But it is up to you to know what you want to do with it.
To sustain the aspiration - to remember. We so easily lapse
into forgetfulness. To create a kind of automatism.
You have no mantras that have come to you, that give you a more living feeling? ... Are their mantras long?
Yes, they are long. And he' has not given me any mantra of
the Mother, so ... They exist, but he has not given me any ... I
don't know, they don't have much effect on me. It is
something very mental.
That's why it should spring forth from you.
This one, this mantra, OM NAMO BHAGAVATEH, came to me after some time, for I felt ... well, I saw that I needed to have a mantra of my own, that is, a mantra consonant with what this body has to do in the world. And it was just then that it came.2 It was truly an answer to a need that had made itself felt. So if you feel the need - not there, not in your head, but here (Mother points to the center of her heart), it will come. One day, either you will hear the words, or they will spring forth from your heart ... And when that happens, you must hold onto it.
1. The tantric Swami.
2. The different mantras or prayers that came to Mother and which She grouped under the heading Prayers of the Consciousness of the Cells, are included as an addendum to the Agenda of 1959.
page 192-97 , Mother's Agenda , volume 1 , 16th Spet - 1958
Fine, Mother, it's a beautiful Mantra.
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Mother, I told Paolo [the Italian architect] to come, he is waiting outside.
Maybe you should tell Paolo about it?
Fine, then, Mother.
Crystal?
But how will the bigger temple be built? Over the small one?
Oh, it will go, another one will be built.
It shouldn't be too high above the floor either, should it?
Ten to twelve inches?
So it would be more or less at eye level.
And a roof with two sides?
When would they start?
I told Paolo what you had seen, that large room, empty, withoutanything. It touched him a lot, he in fact could see that large empty room. He understands quite well. So "empty" simply means a shape.
(Sujata goes out and comes back with Paolo, who comes in with
a garland of pink "Harmony." Mother gives him an orange hibis
cus - Auroville's flower - looks at him, and starts speaking:)
(Paolo:) The outside comes out of the inside.
(P.:) It's very beautiful.
(P.:) The whole structure can be in reinforced concrete.
(Satprem:) You said that you saw the walls with a slight slope.
(P.:) Round.
(Satprem:) With your symbol?
(P.:) It has to be in stone.
(P.:) The room will be rather large?
(P.:) Very good.
(Mother gives two red roses,
Paolo withdraws)
(Laying of the foundation stone of the Matrimandir. Mother is
ninety-three years old. She gives the following message:)
"Let the Matrimandir be the living symbol ofAuroville's aspiration for the Divine."
Centre and four powers, white. The twelve all of different color in three groups: top group red, passing to orange towards yellow. Next group, yellow passing through green towards blue. And third group, blue passing through violet towards red. If white is not convenient, the center may be gold (powder).
March 20, 1934
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(Satprem grimaces)
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(Mother shows the text of a note she has written for the disciples:)
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I once went into the world of music, and what I heard there was so wonderful, so incredibly beautiful that the impact remained with me for hours after I woke up. It was incredible. Where is that world located?
Yes, I'd like to understand how it works. I have to talk about it in the book.
But do you hear something when you play, or what?
Does one hear sounds in the intellectual zone?
But those great waves of music you hear, which you said were beyond sounds - are they part of that domain of luminous vibrations?
In short, when one rises to that Origin, one finds a single vibration, which can be expressed as music or thought or architectural or pictorial forms - is that right?
But about those great waves of music that interest me - I had the impression they must be located well above the world of thought....
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(Mother asks for a box of paints to demonstrate practically the gradation of colors of the levels of consciousness, from the most material Nature to the Supreme. The point is to illustrate the symbol of Infinity, the figure 8, which Mother explained in the conversation of May 11: the infinite play of the Supreme reaching down to Nature and Nature rising toward the Supreme. Mother speaks in English in the presence of a disciple, who is a painter, so that he may convey her explanations to H., the disciple who is preparing illustrations for "Savitri.")
So what is the difference between this material mind and the physical mind? How would you define the physical mind in contrast with this material mind?
(Mother gives Satprem a rose the color of fire.)
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First, one may ask: What is a miracle? Because Sri Aurobindo often says that "there is no such thing as a miracle," but at the same time, in "Savitri," for example, he says, "All's miracle here and can by miracle change."[[Savitri, I.V.85. ]]
What would a real miracle be, then?
(Mother suddenly turns to Satprem)
But... yes, of course!
It's late now, otherwise I might have asked you a question.
Why didn't Sri Aurobindo or you make more use of miracles as a means to overcome the resistances of the outer human consciousness? Why this self-effacement towards the outside, this sort of nonintervention, as it were, or unobstrusiveness?
I'd like to ask you a question.... I haven't quite understood what you meant by "miracles in the Mind." What are they? "Sri Aurobindo performed miracles in the Mind," you said.
The supramental force he would put in a person's mind was able to...
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**
Money is not meant to make money, money is meant to prepare the earth for the new creation.
The men of finance and the businessmen have been offered the possibility to collaborate with the
future, but most of them refuse, convinced that money is stronger than the future.
Thus, the future will crush them with its irresis tible power.
(translation)
To financiers and businessmen
You have been offered the possibility of collaborating with the future, but you have thought that the power of money is stronger than that of the future. And the future will crush you with its irresistible power.
The French is more combative.
Yes, obviously, it's a bit threatening.
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L'Agenda de Mère - vol 3 , 1962
Page 121
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page 122 - the Agenda is for those who love me ...
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page 161 , Mother's Agenda , volume - 2 , 1961 , 2nd April .
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page 144 - Mother's flag
May 18, 1963
page 74 - Ashram's flag and Auroville's
page 74-75 - Auroville March 2, 1968
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page 193 - Mother's Agenda , volume 2 , 29th April - 1961
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I was at the Origin - I WAS the Origin. For more than two hours, consciously, here on this bed, I was the Origin. And it was like gusts - like great gusts ending in explosions. And each one of these gusts was a span of the universe.
It was Love in its supreme essence - which has nothing to do with what people normally understand by that word.
And each gust of this essence of Love was dividing and spreading out ... but they weren't forces, it was far beyond the realm of forces. The universe as we know it no longer existed; it was a sort of bizarre illusion, bearing no relation to THAT. There was only the truth of the universe, with those great gusts of color - they were colored - great gusts colored with something that is the essence of color.
It was stupendous. I lived more than two hours like that, consciously.
And then a Voice was explaining everything to me (not exactly a Voice, but something that was Sri Aurobindo's origin, like the most recent gust from the Origin). As the experience unfolded, this Voice explained each gust to me, each span of the universe; and then it explained how it all became like this (Mother makes a gesture of reversal): the distortion of the universe. And I was wondering how it was possible, with that Consciousness, that supreme Consciousness, to relate to the present, distorted universe. How to make the connection without losing that Consciousness? A relationship between the two seemed impossible. And that's when that sort of Voice reminded me of my promise, that I had promised to do the Work on earth and it would be done. "I promised to do the Work and it will be done."
Then began the process of descent, [[As we will see, "descent" is not the right word. ]] and the Voice was explaining it to me - I lived through it all in detail, and it wasn't pleasant. It took an hour and a half to change from that true Consciousness to the individual consciousness. Because throughout the experience this present individuality no longer existed, this body no longer existed, there were no more limits, I was no longer here - what was here was THE PERSON. An hour and a half was needed to return to the body-consciousness (not the physical consciousness but the body-consciousness), to the individual body-consciousness.
The first sign of the return to individuality was a prick of pain, a tiny point (Mother holds between her fingers a minuscule point in the space of her being). Yes, because I have a sore, a sore in a rather awkward place, and it hurts [[Mother will suffer from this same sore for nearly twelve years. ]] (Mother laughs). So I felt the pain: it was the sign of individuality coming back. Other than that, there was nothing any more - no body, no individual, no limits. But it's strange, I have made a strange discovery [[Later, Mother emphasized: "I don't mean a general discovery; it concerns my body alone. I don't say that all bodies are like this, but MY body - what has become my body - is like this." ]]: I used to think it was the individual (Mother touches her body) who experienced pain and disabilities and all the misfortunes of human life; well, I perceived that what experiences misfortunes is not the individual not my body, but that each misfortune, each pain, each disability has its own individuality as it were, and each one represents a battle.
And my body is a world of battles.
It is the battlefield.
Page 138-39 - Mother's Agenda, volume 3, 13th May - 1962
The mystery is always why he left.
But why can't "both" remain?
Why?
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Sujata enters
(What has happened between April 2nd and 3rd that Mother
should suddenly speak in the following terms?)
Good morning, Mother.
Yes, Mother, your instructions are noted ...
Because we had noted it down, and your instructions are here in the drawer. They've been kept here as "instructions." [[On January 14, 1967, for the first time, Mother had spoken of this possibility of cataleptic trance - five years earlier. ]]
(Mother's attendant, speaking in Bengali to Sujata:) He knows.
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(Mother reads out the message she intends to
distribute for January 1, 1968:)
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(Mother holds a note out to Satprem)
"That is just putting things topsy-turvy."The aim of human life is to discover the Divine and to manifest it. Naturally, this discovery leads to happiness, but this happiness is a consequence, not an aim in itself. And it is this mistake of taking a mere consequence for the aim of life that has been the cause of most of the miseries afflicting humanity."
What do they mean by "happiness"!
Yes, they always put the little person at the center.
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(Regarding an old "Playground Talk" of 1950 and noted from memory by a disciple, which Mother asks Satprem to scrap. The subject was Nirvana, which one was to reach - or so the notation said - by withdrawing all one's energies into the psychic being or soul.)
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Some people wanted to get me nominated for the Nobel peace prize; I was asked for a statement and that's what I wrote. I wanted to say that it wasn't this person who did things - it was all Sri Aurobindo.
They had wanted to give the Nobel prize to Sri Aurobindo, but he left the year before the decision was to be made. And as they don't give the prize to "dead" people, he never got it. Then they wanted to transfer it to me, and I wrote this note, because the last thing I want is name and fame. That's all there was to it. They didn't give a peace prize that year.
I believe the whole affair is now buried and forgotten.
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(Nolini comes in to read Mother his English translation of
"Notes on the Way" for the next Bulletin.)
(Satprem:) It depends on the consciousness with which onereads to you.
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And Bengal? Isn't it ahead?
(Later, Mother gives Satprem the following note which wasgiven to seven or eight members of Orissa's parliament:)
"Socialism like all political parties belongs to thepast and must be surpassed if we want to serve the Truth."
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Regarding the mantra Satprem asked for when he was
in hospital but did not receive.)
The first word represents ...
the supreme invocation ...
the supreme invocation
the invocation to the Supreme.
The second word represents:
total self-giving ...
perfect surrender.
The third word represents:
the aspiration ...
he first word represents:
the supreme invocation the invocation
to the Supreme.
total self-giving;
the aspiration,
what the manifestation must
become - Divine.
OM_Namo_bhagavate-
what the manifestation
must become ...
This terrestrial manifestation must become:
Divine.
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OM Sri Aurobindo Mira Open my mind, my heart, my life to your Light, your Love, your Power. In all things may I see the Divine.
16 July 1938 On Himself, 26.512
The first could make a message for the November darshan?
The other one could make a message for February?
What about putting "Ma" [Mother] instead of "Mira"?
I think you could put "Ma" instead of "Mira."
(Mother still breathes with difficulty)
Should we put it as it is for February?
You look very absorbed, Mother?
Yes ...
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And as a power! Not only as a symbol, but as a power.
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Mother's Agenda - vol 8 – 1967 , page 102 , 6th April .
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In your body's cells, it is therefore a universal progress that is being made, it's the earth that progresses.
Yes, but that's not very encouraging for the ordinary human beings that we are.
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Yes, it's heavy.
It's heavy.
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I would especially like to understand the difference between the overmind and the Supermind - to understand it concretely, not abstractly.
Yes, precisely - but what exactly makes the difference?
Yes, the gods stop at the overmind.
Yes, but in the Supermind as well?...
No, what I mainly want to know is the difference when you cross to the other side, into the Supermind - the difference in vision between the Supermind and the overmind.
What about Sri Aurobindo's experience at Alipore, then? You know, that well-known experience when he saw Narayana in the prisoners, Narayana in the guards, Narayana everywhere?...
Is it a supramental experience or....
Supramental?
It's supramental, not overmental?
Anyway, the important thing is what you told me: the experience at Alipore is supramental.
No, but the difference in vision - I'm speaking of vision. You told me, for instance, that objects in the overmind were self-luminous.
Did you mean that one sees terrestrial objects become luminous? [[In fact, Satprem was ever pursuing the same question: How far does the shift to the other vision change the vision of Matter - what does true Matter look like? ]]
So it isn't necessary to pass through that.
Yes, quite so.
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I wanted to mention something (I couldn't tell you about it lasttime), but I have been solicited by Paolo, [[An Italian film maker, architect and painter. ]] who is preparing a documentary on the Ashram for television. He asked to take photos of me, a film, and so on. First I said, "I'll talk about it with Mother." But as it wasn't possible lately, yesterday he finally came down on me with his camera, and I let him.
Yes, but still, showing myself off ...
Ah, but with you it's different!
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page 160 - Mother's Agenda , volume 7 , July 27 - 1966
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How foolish!
They have conscientiously ruined the country.
Well, they've stopped fighting in the west....[[On the Kashmir and Rajasthan front, that is, the road to West Pakistan, the heart of the trouble. ]]
Which means it's not the end of the problem.
It will break up from within, yes, I see.
page 334 , Mother's Agenda , December 18, 1971
Page 247 , Mother's Agenda , volume 6 , Sept. 18, 1965
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(Sujata:) Mother, what does a white peacock with a golden tailmean?
Satprem saw it. (Satprem:) I saw it last night.
But I don't know, I just saw it in passing.
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The pomegranate tree is the symbol of Divine Love; Mother called the fruit "Divine Love Spreading over the World."
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I began three days ago, but I keep getting entangled with the traditional formation around it: "Oh, it's dangerous, it's dangerous, be careful." So this morning I thought I'd better speak to you about it.
There's a traditional way of doing it, I know the formula.
The time varies. You inhale through the left nostril for let's say 4 seconds, then you hold your breath for 16 seconds, raising the diaphragm and closing all the openings; after 16 seconds you exhale for 8 seconds through the other nostril.
Yes; I mean that's the proportion: inhale 4, hold 16, exhale 8.
It has to be double the exhalation. If you do 8, then it's 8-32-16.
I did it myself for years, using the same system: inhale, hold, exhale, remain empty. But holding the lungs empty is said to be dangerous, so I don't advise it. I did it for years. Without knowing it, Sri Aurobindo and I did it nearly the same way, along with all sorts of other things that aren't supposed to be done! This is to tell you that the danger is mainly in what you think. In the course of certain movements, both of us made the air go out through the crown of the head - apparently that's only to be done when you want to die! (Mother laughs) It didn't kill us.
No, the "danger" is MAINLY a thought formation.
You can achieve excellent control of the heart. But I never practiced it violently, never strained myself. I think holding for 16 is too long. I used to do it simply like this: breathe in very slowly to the count of 4, then hold for 4 like this (I still have the knack of it!), lifting the diaphragm and lowering the head [[Uddiyana-bandha and jalandhara-bandha. ]] (Mother bends her neck), closing everything and exerting pressure (this is an almost instantaneous cure for hiccups - it's handy!). Then while I held the air, I would make it circulate with the force (because it contained force, you see) and with the peace as well; and I would concentrate it wherever there was a physical disorder (a pain or something wrong somewhere). It's very effective. The way I did it was: inhale, hold, exhale and empty - you are completely empty. It's very useful; very handy for underwater swimmers, for instance!
I had trouble breathing in slowly enough - that's a bit hard. I began with 4 and eventually managed to do 12. I did 12-12-12-12. It took me months to reach that, it can't be done quickly. To breathe in very slowly and hold all that air isn't easy.
Now I have lost the knack, I can barely do more than 6 (Mother demonstrates). I count: 1-2-3-4 ... no quicker.
And exhale slowly - that's very difficult - being careful to empty the top part of the lungs, because air often stagnates there. This seems to be one of the most frequent causes of coughs and colds. When I had bronchitis I learned to empty the air out completely. And I knew singing, so I was familiar with the method: you learn to hold the air and then release it slowly, slowly, so as to keep singing nonstop.
I advise you to practice it.
How much time do you spend on it?
Eight to ten minutes, three times a day before my japa.
Oh, that's very good.
I don't know why, but I got entangled with that traditional formation which says it's dangerous.
Someone put it on you, mon petit!
It troubled me.
No, it's not at all dangerous, at least if you don't overdo it. If you do it simply.... I think some people practice pranayama with the idea of gaining "powers." That idea of gaining powers fouls it up more than anything. But if you do it simply as a help to your progress, there's no danger.
At any rate, Sri Aurobindo and I both did a lot of things considered dangerous, and absolutely nothing happened to us. Not that it's necessary to do dangerous things, but nothing happened to us, so it all depends on how you do them.
I think you can safely forget about this formation.
But instead of doing equal amounts of time, it might be better to do less for inhaling and more for holding the breath. The holding part is extremely interesting! When the air is inside, let's say you have a headache or a sore throat or a pain in your arm, anything - then you take the air ... (Mother demonstrates) and direct it to the unwell part ... very, very helpful and pleasant and interesting. You see the force go to the spot, settle in and stay there, all sorts of things.
Ah, it's funny, because just this morning.... Did you come for the balcony?
Lately I have been coming, but I didn't this morning.
Yes, I thought I didn't see you! But when I went out on the balcony, something suddenly began making me do pranayama! I started doing it and it was funny - I had great fun. It was like the Lord entering into me as air, and when it was held inside like that (I was doing it physically at the same time), all the air began to flow out into everybody and do its work in each one - with such a sensation of ease, of tranquil power, and so sure of itself! So comfortably peaceful.
The balcony darshans are interesting.
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Page 337
Om - namo - bhagavateh
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OM
OM, Supreme Lord
Take possession of this body
Manifest Yourself in it.
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You are my Light, my Force
and my Joy
You are my sovereign
Realization.
Ô Seigneur, Tu es ma paix, ma puissance et ma joie,
Tu es ma réalisation souveraine.
O Lord, You are my peace, my force and my joy,
You are my sovereign realization.
Page 344
Mahima Tawaïwa prabho parama jitwara*
Mahima Tawaïwa prabho parama jitwara
Om, namo bhagavateh#
Om, namo bhagavateh
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Page 337 – 350 - Prayers of the Consciousness of the Cells
Mother's Agenda - vol 1 , 1951 - 1960
page 337 , Mother's Agenda - volume 1 , 25th July 1958
OM, Seigneur Suprême
Prends possession de ce corps
Manifeste-Toi en lui.
1. All these prayers were written by Mother and this title was given by Her.
page 339 , Mother's Agenda - volume 1 , 21st Jan. 1959
O Lord, how sweet it is to need You!
page 344 , Mother's Agenda - volume 1 , January 1959
Prayer to Durga
Tu es ma Lumière, ma Puissance
et ma Joie
Tu es ma Réalisation
souveraine.
Om
Seigneur Suprême,
Tu es ma Réalisation souveraine.
Supreme Lord,
You are my sovereign Realization.
page 344-45 , Mother's Agenda - volume 1 , 9th Oct. 1959
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That's a shame!
It's really a shame.
You should obviously be read in French.
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"Teach your listeners to love the Truth.This is a work worth doing."
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(Satprem suggests he read certain past Agenda conversations to Mother. She refuses:)
page 116 - Mother's Agenda , volume 3 , March 11, 1962
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That's the real evil at the School, and there is one: a tendency to turn everything into a system.
If you left, it would be terrible....
(At the end of the conversation, Mother shows Satprem
a note she wrote the same morning:)
But here, it's said so objectively.
We call religion any concept of the world or the universewhich is presented as the exclusive Truth in which one must have an absolute faith, generally because this Truth is declared to be the result of a revelation. Most of the religions affirm the existence of a God and the rules to follow to obey Him, but there are also Godless name of an Ideal or the State, claim the same right to be obeyed.
Man's right is a free pursuit of the Truth with the liberty to his discovery is good for him alone and it is not to be enforced upon others.
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You do say a couple of words about it.
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(Mother holds out a letter)
Sweet Mother, the notion of religion is most often connected to that of the quest for God. Should we understand it in that perspective alone? Aren't there today, as a matter of fact, other forms of religion?
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Catherine, yes.
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(Soon afterwards, Mother reads a letter by Sri Aurobindo, dated
January 25, 1935, on Russian Communism and spirituality.)
Sri AurobindoJanuary 25, 1935
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And the true sincerity: to live for the Divine without expecting any benefit from Him in return.
November 12, 1937
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"To be young is to live in the future for the future.
To be young is to be always ready to abandon
what one is in order to become what one ought to
be....
"What is the need of the hour?"
(Mother laughs wholeheartedly)
(Mother, laughing, holds out to Satprem a note she has just written:)
"The goal we aim at is immortality. Of all
habits, death is certainly the most inveterate!"
There is no other consciousness than the Supreme Consciousness. There is no other will than the Supreme Will. There is no other life than the Supreme Life. There is no other personality than the Supreme Personality, the One and the All.
(Mother then writes a second note:)
If everyone made an effort...
The first note is dated August 22:
Night of the 26th
Yes, it's fantastic.
But strangely, in your note of the 26th, you add:
Then you say:
It's strange that it should be the least receptive?
Strangely, every time you've had those great moments, orviolent blows, if I may say so, every time it's the mind and vital that were swept away. The first time too, in 1962.
There are a few more notes here, which I haven't read to you.You say:
There's one more note:
The note goes on:
(Mother first shows a note she has written about religions:)
The attitude to be taken towards religions:
The attitude to be taken
towards religions:
A benevolent goodwill towards all worshippers.An enlightened indifference towards all religions.
All religions are partial approaches to the one simple Truth that is far above them.
Why do men want to worship? ...
It is much better to become than to worship!
is that not to be transformed?
"Undeniably.
For everyone: to prepare oneself for this transformation.
For a few: to begin the work of transformation.
"For a very small number: to hasten the process of transformation."
"There is a Supreme Divine Consciousness. Wewant to manifest this divine Consciousness in the physical life.
"It is in the silence of complete identification withthe Divine that true understanding is obtained."
To listen is good but not sufficient, You must understand. To understand is good but not yet sufficient, You must act!
(Mother suddenly picks up a desk pad near her and writesan answer to a letter she had read at the beginning. [[A letter in which a disciple said he had some spare time between 1:00 and 3:00 p.m. and asked the best way to use it. ]] )
Is it readable? Because I'm not sure, I don't see clearly.
"It is an excellent time to read, meditate, and,little by little, go into a receptive silence that will enable the higher Consciousness to enter the body in order to transform it."
(Mother takes another note)
The very first step towards immortalityis to replace the mechanical centralization by a willed centralization.
Death is the consequence of the decentralisation of the Consciousness contained in the cells composing the body.
This centralisation produced by Nature ismechanical and it must be replaced by a willed centralisation.
(Mother holds out a first note)
Why do men want to worship? It is much better to become than to worship. [[Italicized words or sentences are spoken or written by Mother in original English. ]]
In April '69 [on the 26th].
If you want to find your soul, to know and obeyit, stay here at any cost.
If that is not the goal of your life and you areready to live the life of the great majority of people, you can certainly go back to your family.
To people of ill-will
The harm you have caused willfully alwayscomes back to you in one form or another. [[See Agenda X of 26 April 1969. ]]
Below there is a note: "Dictated by the S. M. [superman]consciousness."
It is when all appears to be lost that all can be saved.
It is when all appears to be lost
that all can be saved.
When one has lost trust in one's personal power, one must have faith in the Divine Grace.
When one has lost trust
in one's personal power,
one must have faith
in the Divine Grace.
"For the moment still, liberty, equality, fraternity are nothing but words loudly proclaimed but never put into practice yet. They cannot be, so long as men remain as they are, governed by their ego and all its desires instead of being governed solely by the One Supreme and supremely Divine."
"Liberty cannot be manifested until all men know thefreedom of the Supreme Lord. "Equality cannot be manifested until all men are conscious of the Supreme Lord. "Fraternity cannot be manifested until all men feel equally issued from the Supreme Lord and 'one' in His Unity"
"The Supreme Lord's opinion
alone matters. "The Supreme Lord alone
deserves all our love
and gives it back a hundredfold."
"When you stand in the light of the Supreme Consciousness you must not make a shadow."
"To calm all personal ambitions, I must declare that
If, for any reason, this body becomes unusable,the universal Mother will again start manifesting in hundreds of individualities according to their capacity and receptivity, each one being a partial manifestation of the Universal Consciousness."
(On this day all the disciples filed silently past Mother,
who is still unwell, sitting in her chair.)
1971
Blessed are those who
take a leap towards the Future
(A note of Mother's.)
There is a Supreme Divinity, witness of all our actions, and the day for consequences will soon come.
(Mother gives Satprem a note she has just written.)
"When men become disgusted with the falsehood they live in, then the world will be ready for the reign of Truth."
(Mother hands Satprem two notes.)
"We are at a moment of transition in the history ofthe earth. It is a moment only in terms of the eternity of time. But compared to human life this moment is long. Matter is in the process of changing to prepare for a new manifestation; but the human body is not suffi ciently plastic and offers resistance. This is why the number of incomprehensible disorders and diseases is increasing and becoming a problem for medical science. The remedy lies in union with the divine forces which are at work and in a confident and quiet receptivity that facilitates the process."
November 18, 1971
November 20, 1971
(Mother hands a piece of paper to Satprem)
"A victory won over the lower nature willgive a deeper and more lasting joy than any outer success."
(A note by Mother)
Yes, Mother, certainly. "Difficult periods come on earth to compel mento overcome their small personal egoism and to turn exclusively to the Divine for help and light. The wisdom of men is ignorant. Only the Divine knows."
"The red lotus is the flower of Sri Aurobindo,but specially for his centenary we shall choose the blue lotus, which is the colour of his physical aura, to symbolise the centenary of the manifestation of the Supreme upon earth."
(A note by Mother in English)
Sincerity, humility, perseverance and an insatiable thirst for progress are essential for a happy and fruitful life, and above all, to be convinced that the possibility of progress is limitless. Progress is youth; one can be young at a hundred years.
January 14, 1972
which prevails over all petty reactions and pre pares us for union with the Divine, the meaning of individual existence.
Thus, the purpose and goal of life is not suffering and struggle but an all-powerful and happy realization.
All the rest is but a painful illusion.
In the beginnings of humanity, the ego was the unifying element. It is around the ego that the various states of being were formed. But now that a superhumanity is about to be born, the ego must disappear and leave place for the psychic being which has slowly developed through divine agency to manifest the Divine in man.
The Divine manifests in man under the psychic influence, and that is how the coming of superhumanity is prepared.
The first thing one learns on the way is thatgiving brings much greater joy than taking.
Then, gradually, one learns that selflessness isthe source of an immutable peace. Later, in this selflessness one finds the Divine, and that is the source of an unending bliss....
One day Sri Aurobindo told me that if peopleknew that and were convinced of it they would all want to do yoga.
Human consciousness is so corrupt that peopleprefer the misery and ignorance of the ego to the luminous joy that comes from sincere surrender to the Divine. Their blindness is so great that they refuse even to attempt the experience and prefer to be subjected to the misery of their ego rather than make the necessary effort to free themselves from it.
Their blindness is so total that they would nothesitate to make the Divine a slave to their ego, if such a thing were possible, just to avoid giving themselves to the Divine.
All day long on the 21st I had a strong feelingthat it was everybody's birthday, and I felt an urge to say "happy birthday" to everyone.
A very strong impression that something new was manifesting in the world, and that all those who were ready and receptive could incarnate it.
In a few days, probably, we will know what it was.
Life on earth is essentially a field for progress; how short life is for all the progress we have to make!
To waste time seeking the gratification of one'spetty desires is sheer folly. True happiness can be attained only by finding the Divine.
Supreme Lord, Perfection we must become,Perfection we must manifest.
This body lives only by You and says to You over and over again:
"What You will
What You will"
until the day it knows it automatically becauseits consciousness will be completely united with Yours.
The truth, which man has vainly sought toknow, will be the privilege of the new race, the race of tomorrow, the superman.
To live according to the Truth will be hisprivilege.
Let us do our best to help prepare the advent ofthe New Being. The mind must fall silent and be replaced by the Truth-Consciousness - the consciousness of details integrated with the consciousness of the whole.
"One must not confuse a religious teaching and aspiritual teaching. Religious teaching belongs to the past and stops all progress, spiritual teaching is the teaching of the future. It enlightens the consciousness and prepares it for the future realization.
A spiritual teaching is above religions and strivestowards a total truth. It teaches us to come into direct contact with the Divine."
"When you are conscious of the whole world atthe same time, then you can become conscious of the Divine."
Yes, yes, Mother!
Quand vous devenez conscient du monde toutentier en meme temps, alors vous etes capable d'etre conscient du Divin.
Yes, Mother, but "alors" [=then] isn't necessary: "Quand vous devenez conscient du monde tout entier en meme temps, vous etes capable d'etre conscient du Divin. "
Before dying falsehood rises in full swing.
Still people understand only the lesson of catastrophe.Will it have to come before they open their eyes to the truth ?
I ask an effort from all so that it has not to be.
It is only the Truth that can save us: truth in words,truth in action, truth in will, truth in feelings. It is a choice between serving the Truth or being destroyed
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(During the two preceding meetings, Satprem read to Mother several fragments of his manuscript on Sri Aurobindo.)
No, Mother, I feel I have to do it all over. I don't have the thread. I just have scraps here and there, bits and pieces - I don't have the thread.
Yes, it's precisely this need to explain.
But you have to make people understand the work of Sri Aurobindo - what he came to do, what his work is!
No, Mother, I have to catch hold of the thread.
But that's just it, you see-before working I always become completely silent and in that silence there is NOTHING. I could stay like that for hours!
But nothing comes!
Well, after a certain length of time - because after all, time passes - I have to work....
Then, obviously, I catch hold of some idea - sometimes it's the right idea, sometimes it isn't.
Yes, but I will have to redo all that precedes it.
(after the reading)
I would like to go over it all again. Page 353
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A thread is missing. I don't know, some people can write in bits and pieces, here and there, but not me. If I don't feel that everything behind me is completed, I can't go ahead. I need to have a flow.
To me it's clear that some segments are unsuitable.
Unsuitable.
I will try to see.... If I catch the thread, it will be all right - but I must catch it.
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Mother, give me one single indication. Don't you think I should cut out what I read to you yesterday? It would be a relief if you told me.
No, of course not!
Of course not! You didn't come for that....
I don't recall whether it was last night or the night before, but I saw you with him, the two of you were busy with the book. And Sri Aurobindo was pleased. When I saw him (I was there, seeing the two of you), I thought, "Well, if Satprem could see this (laughing), at least he'd be pleased for once."
I don't know why, but I'm more and more unconscious.
Oh yes, more and more. Previously I used to remember a little - now nothing. Nothing! It's funny.
I should say so!
That's true!
There's a question I have been asking myself for some time, and I would like you to solve it for me.... I am supposed to write a sequel to "The Gold-Washer" - or rather, they're expecting it, and also I thought I should do so. But I really wouldn't like to do it from an arbitrary decision. I would like ... You understand, I wouldn't like it to be "me" who decides.
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For ever love, O beautiful slave of God [[Savitri, Vol. 29, XI.I.702. ]]
A sound that can bring in the supramental Force?
Something that veils?
I'm re-reading 'Savitri.'
It wasn't so much a question of the 'why' as of the process.
Both are needed.
I have the right to 150 pages! The publisher is giving me 150 pages in his collection.... Terrible.... But in this 'Sri Aurobindo,' you understand, I would like to make his whole poetic aspect stand out, that poetry which is like the Veda, like a revelation, so a bit of space is required: it can't be squeezed into a few lines, or reduced to a skeleton.
I read a passage in Savitri which seems to link up exactly with what you were saying....
I'd rather you read it yourself, because my English.... I found it really striking - these four lines here....
(Mother reads:)
"What the white gods had missed...."
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ADDENDUM
(These are the last lines of Savitri Mother translated. They were found in her notebook under the date July 1, 1970.)
(X.IV.647)
(Mother's translation)
1.7.1970
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We could simply say: "Sri Aurobindo left this life on December 5, 1950."
"The seeker of transformation must thus face all the difficulties, even death, not to vanquish but to change them - one cannot change things without taking them upon oneself. 'Thou shalt bear all things,' says Savitri, 'that all things may change.' Sri Aurobindo succumbed to this work ..."
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All earth shall be the Spirit's manifest home.[[Savitri, Cent. Ed., XXIX.707. ]]
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(I.IV.54)
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(Mother reads aloud her translation up to: "They turn not to the moment's busy tramp")
(Mother reads the end of her translation)
(I.IV.55)
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(Mother reads aloud her translation up to:"God shall grow up while the wise men talk and sleep")
(Mother reads her translation of the last two lines.)
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(Regarding a passage in "Savitri" in which Sri Aurobindo describes the universe as a play between He and She. "This whole wide world is only he and she," He, the Supreme in love with her, her servitor; She, the creative Force.)
(I.IV. 62)
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(Mother opens "Savitri." She intended to translate "The Debate of Love and Death." The book opens "by chance" on the last lines of Death's defeat, which Mother reads aloud:)
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(X.IV.667)
(Mother leafs through the book)
(Mother goes back to the beginning of Book X, Canto IV)
(X.IV.642)
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(Mother looks further)
(X.IV.643)
You'll end up at the beginning!
(Mother leafs back)
(Mother leafs further)
That's where it begins.
There's a passage underlined here.
(X. III . 63 6)
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(X599)
(Mother turns the pages)
(Mother reads the concluding lines of "Savitri":)
(XII.724)
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(Satprem concentrates and opens the book)
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(III.III.332)
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13 Mars 1963, vol- 4, page 79-85 , L'Agenda de M�re
(Mother first reads from her translation of "Savitri" a few excerpts about death. We give here the original English.)
(X600)
Yes, it must be a joy to work on "Savitri."
Nothing, except a few Agenda conversations, as always.
23 Mars 1963, vol- 4, page 92-93 , L'Agenda de M�re
(Mother suddenly points to a piece of paper on the table beside her, on which the figure 8 is written)
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Could we translate: "L'Amour n'est pas le c�ur et son besoin d'affection" [Love is not the heart and its hunger for affection]?
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But Buddha represented only one stage of consciousness. AT THAT TIME it was good to follow that path, therefore ...
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(Sujata:) Is it the promise that came?
(Mother sets the calendar to January 1, 1964, and reads Sri Aurobindo's quotation)
But your Agenda is the end of the "Yoga of Self-Perfection"!
(Mother shows a sketch she has just drawn to illustrate the passage in "Savitri" in which Sri Aurobindo speaks of the "sardonic rictus on God's face.")
(Mother shows the sketch representing the Lord's sorrowful face.Long silence)
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8th January 1964, vol-5, page 22-23 , L'Agenda de M�re
(The day after Mother's eighty-sixth birthday. Mother first reads the translation of the message she gave on the 21st:)
(Savitri, I.II.19)
22nd February 1964, vol-5, page 60 , L'Agenda de M�re
Yes, that's what it is, a sort of inebriation.
Somewhere in "Savitri," Sri Aurobindo says, "This wine of lightning in the cells...."[[And came back quivering with a nameless Force Drunk with a wine of lightning in their cells. (IV.IV 383) ]]
22nd February 1964, vol-5, page 62 , L'Agenda de M�re
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18th March 1964, vol-5, page 87 , L'Agenda de M�re
(VII.IV. 507)
23rd March 1964, vol-5, page 103 , L'Agenda de M�re
I read a line in "Savitri" that struck me very much, because I saw a connection with what you said the other day about the coexistence of Falsehood and Truth: "And earth shall grow unexpectedly divine."[["When darkness deepens strangling the earth's breast And man's corporeal mind is the only lamp, As a thief's in the night shall be the covert tread Of one who steps unseen into his house. A Voice ill-heard shall speak, the soul obey, A power into mind's inner chamber steal, A charm and sweetness open life's closed doors And beauty conquer the resisting world The truth-light capture Nature by surprise, A stealth of God compel the heart to bliss And earth shall grow unexpectedly divine." (Savitri, I.IV.55) ]]
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14th November 1964, vol-5, page 283-84 , L'Agenda de M�re
(Every time Mother receives Satprem, she translates one line from "Savitri" that has been copied for her in large characters. Today's line is from the debate between Death and Savitri's heart:)
(Mother repeats)
(Mother then takes up the translation of "Savitri":
The Debate of Love and Death.)
... Then will I give thee all thy soul desires
All the brief joys earth keeps for mortal hearts
... My will once wrought remains unchanged through Time
And Satyavan can never again be thine.
X.III.636
(Mother translates)
Alors je te donnerai tout ce que ton �me d�sire ...
[Then will I give thee all thy soul desires]
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(Then Mother takes up the translation of "Savitri" and stops abruptly, as if she were following something with her eyes:)
(Mother takes up her first lines of "Savitri")
(X.IV.641)
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(Mother copies out in her thick white notebook a few lines from her translation of "Savitri.")
Each in its hour eternal claimed went by
Ideals, systems, sciences, poems, crafts
Tireless there perished and again recurred,
Sought restlessly by some creative Power.
But all were dreams crossing an empty vast.
Ascetic voices called of lonely seers
On mountain summits or on river banks
Or from the desolate heart of forest glades
Seeking heaven's rest or the spirit's worldless peace,
Or in bodies motionless like statues, fixed
In tranced cessations of their sleepless thought
Sat sleeping souls, and this too was a dream.
(Mother carries on with her translation of "Savitri": the vision of the plane where all the formations of the human mind are found.)
(Then Mother goes on to "Savitri," the beginning of the new dialogue between Savitri and Death:)
(long silence Mother scribbles a few words)
(After the translation of "Savitri" -
the dialogue with Death)
Behold the figures of this symbol realm....
Here thou canst trace the outcome Nature gives
To the sin of being and the error in things
And the desire that compels to live
And man's incurable malady of hope.
(X.IV.64 3)
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(The following conversation, in which Mother speaks entirely
in English, took place while she listened to the English transla
tion of the conversation of March 4, in which she said in
particular: "It becomes just a choice: you choose things
to be like this or like that....")
"And then, it becomes just a choice: you choose things to be like this or like that ..."
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(Later, Mother copies out a few lines from "Savitri" which she has just translated, and her hand scratches out a word.)
(Mother translates a line of "Savitri" without hesitation, then comments:)
(Then Mother reads two lines from "Savitri," the Debate of Love and Death.)
In vain his heart lifts up its yearning prayer,
Peopling with brilliant Gods the formless Void
(X.IV.644)
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Why? Were you in the formless Void?
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The worshipers of Nothingness ... I don't know, the farther I go, the more I have a sense of a ... very, very sweet, very full Nothingness, but still a Nothingness. It's absolutely void, yet it's full, and very sweet, but there's nothing.
No, no!
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No, you say you don't draw conclusions, but I try to!
In short, it's the consciousness of Eternity learning to enter into Time, into Matter?
(Mother reads a few lines in which Death derides all human beliefs, concepts, philosophies, inventions....)
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Certainly, she is going to answer.
But that's because it's "He"! [[Satprem means that Death is a mask of "Him," of the Supreme. ]]
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(Mother resumes her translation of the debate with Death.)
(turning to Satprem with a smile)
(X.IV.646)
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And earth [shall] grow unexpectedly divine.
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If God there is he cares not for the world;
All things he sees with calm indifferent gaze,
He has doomed all hearts to sorrow and desire,
He has bound all life with his implacable laws;
He answers not the ignorant voice of prayer.
Eternal while the ages toil beneath,
Unmoved, untouched by aught that he has made,
He sees as minute details mid the stars
The animals's agony and the fate of man:
Immeasurably wise, he exceeds thy thought;
His solitary joy needs not thy love.
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(Message for Mother's eighty-ninth birthday)
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Sri Aurobindo(Savitri, I.IV.63)
Just the state of consciousness when I act spontaneously (the "I" is a habit of speech, it's to avoid having to make long sentences), when I act spontaneously, without objectifying myself, is generally unbearable enough: the reactions in others are difficult. I always have to ... [restrain myself]. It does happen, but generally I am
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obliged to be careful, especially when I have to speak.
And there is a very amusing observation; it's exactly what Sri Aurobindo wrote in Savitri: "The wise men talk and sleep...." God grows up while the wise men talk and sleep.[[A few shall see what none yet understands God shall grow up while the wise men talk and sleep; For man shall not know the coming till its hour And belief shall be not till the work is done. (I.IV.55) ]] And that's how it is: wholly unconscious of what goes on. I don't say it (I am saying it to you), but they are wholly unconscious. I constantly feel I am using a candle snuffer (!) so as not to be ... really unbearable.
When this luminous Power comes, it's so compact - so compact that it gives the impression of being much heavier than Matter. It's veiled, veiled, completely veiled, otherwise ... unbearable.
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I remember a very powerful line in "Savitri" which says it all
wonderfully in a few words. He says, "The bodiless Nameless
ness that saw God BORN...."[[The bodiless Namelessness that saw God born And tries to gain from mortal's mind and soul A deathless body and a divine name. (Savitri, I.III.40) ]]
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(XI.i.710)
And your translation of "Savitri"?
It's a pity.
(Then Mother records her translation of a few excerpts from
"Savitri," which are to be set to music. Satprem suddenly notices
that a corner of Mother's left eye is slightly bloodshot.)
The master of existence lurks in usAnd plays at hide and seek with his own Force;In Nature's instrument loiters secret God.The immanent lives in man as in his house;He has made the universe his pastime's field,A vast gymnasium of his works of might ....He is the explorer and the marinerOf a secret inner ocean without bourne:He is the adventurer and cosmologistOf a magic earth's obscure geography ...Or passing through a gate of pillar-rocks ...He leaves the last lands, crosses the ultimate seas,He turns to eternal things his symbol quest;Life changes for him its time-constructed scenes,Its images veiling infinity.
(I.IV.66-70)
A car was just passing by.
Won't it tire your eye?
(Mother first reads a few fragments from "Savitri"
which are to be set to music.)
In Matter shall be lit the spirit's glow ... A few shall see what none yet understands; God shall grow up while the wise men talk and sleep; For man shall not know the coming till its hour And belief shall be not till the work is done.
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This transfiguration is earth's due to heaven: A mutual debt binds man to the Supreme: His nature we must put on as he put ours; We are sons of God and must be even as he: His human portion, we must grow divine. Our life is a paradox with God for key.
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But none learns whither through the unknown he sailsOr what secret mission the great Mother gave.In the hidden strength of her omnipotent Will,Driven by her breath across life's tossing deep,Through the thunder's roar and through the windless hush,Through fog and mist where nothing more is seen,He carries her scaled orders in his breast.
A power is on him from her occult forceThat ties him to his own creation's fate,And never can the mighty traveller restAnd never can the mystic voyage cease,Till the nescient dusk is lifted from man's soulAnd the morns of God have overtaken his night.
This constant will she covered with her sport,To evoke a person in the impersonal Void,With the Truth-Light strike earth's massive roots of trance,Wake a dumb self in the inconscient depthsAnd raise a lost power from its python sleepThat the eyes of the Timeless might look out from TimeAnd the world manifest the unveiled Divine.For this he left his white infinityAnd laid on the Spirit the burden of the flesh,That Godhead's seed might flower in mindless Space.
Savitri, I.IV.55-73
He shore the cord of mind that ties the earth-heartAnd cast away the yoke of Matter's law.The body's rules bound not the spirit's powers ....
(I.V.74)
(Mother looks for the passage,
which Satprem reads out:)
When life had stopped its beats, death broke not in ....
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He dared to live when breath and thought were still.
Thus could he step into that magic placeWhich few can even glimpse with hurried glance ....
(Satprem reads out the translation)
But the abolition of the mind, isn't it the same as the complete tranquillity of the mind?
It's not the same thing.
What can be done to abolish the mind?
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(Mother wants to revise with Satprem a few passages
of her translation of 'Savitri.')
What should I do?
But Mother, listen ... why?
Yes, but I'm wary. You know, I have learned that what's thought
to be "better" according to literary knowledge isn't necessarily
better from the standpoint of the true force.
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Admitted through a curtain of bright mindThat hangs between our thought and absolute sight,He found the occult cave, the mystic doorNear to the well of vision in the soulAnd entered where the Wings of Glory broodIn the sunlit space where all is for ever known.
"Brood"? ...
There in a hidden chamber closed and muteAre kept the record graphs of the cosmic scribe,And there the tables of the sacred Law ....The symbol powers of number and of form,And the secret code of the history of the worldAnd Nature's correspondence with the soulAre written in the mystic heart of life.In the glow of the Spirit's room of memoriesHe could recover the luminous marginal notesDotting with light the crabbed ambiguous scroll ...
(ibid.)
He saw the unshaped thought in soulless forms,Knew Matter pregnant with spiritual sense,Mind dare the study of the Unknowable,Life its gestation of the Golden Child.
(I. V. 76)
A Will, a hope immense now seized his heart,And to discern the superhuman's formHe raised his eyes to unseen spiritual heights,Aspiring to bring down a greater world.
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(Then Mother returns to the previous conversation about materi
alizations, and Satprem's note in which he asked, "But Savitri
goes into death in search of Satyavan ... so Mother is going
to bring back Sri Aurobindo?')
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(Then Mother takes up the reading of Savitri: the end of
the Debate of Love and Death.)
Yes [laughing], yes, it's the end.
It's always better to have your handwriting! But if it tires you,
it's quite easy for me to note it down.
(Mother writes her French translation
of the following verses:)
If thou art Spirit and Nature is thy robe,
Cast off thy garb and be thy naked self
Immutable in its undying truth,
Alone for ever in the mute Alone.
Turn then to God, for him leave all behind;
Forgetting Love, forgetting Satyavan,
Annul thyself in his immobile peace.
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O soul, drown in his still beatitude.
For thou must die to thyself ...
"To reach the divine heights"?
For thou must die to thyself to reach God's height:
I, Death, am ...
I, Death, am the gate of immortality.
Savitri, X.IV.647
(Mother takes up her translation of Savitri: Savitri's
answer to Death.)
But Savitri answered to the sophist God:
"Once more wilt thou call Light to blind Truth's eyes,
Make knowledge a catch of the snare of Ignorance
And the Word a dart to slay my living Soul?
Offer, O king, thy boons to tired spirits ...
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(Mother smiles)
And hearts that could not bear the wounds of Time,
Let those who were tied to body and to mind,
Tear off those bonds and flee into white calm
Crying for a refuge from the play of God,
Surely thy boons are great since thou art He!"
Yes, Mother. In the last verses, Savitri said:
Yes, Death told her one must leave one's body in order to find God's height....
(Mother translates the sequel)
But how shall I seek rest in endless peace
Who house the mighty Mother's violent force,
Her vision turned to read the enigmaed world,
Her will tempered in the blaze of Wisdom's sun
And the flaming silence of her heart of love?
The world is a spiritual paradox
Invented by a need in the Unseen,
A poor translation to the creatures sense
Of That which for ever exceeds idea and speech,
A symbol of what can never be symbolised,
A language mispronounced, misspelt, yet true....
Savitri, X.IV.647-648
Yes, there is more.
(those were the last line
of the Debate of Love and Death
Mother was to translate)
(Mother gives Satprem the message for August 15:)
"Even the body shall remember God."
Savitri, XI.I.707
(Mother takes up the translation of a few extracts from Savitri.)
The great World-Mother by her sacrifice
Has made her soul the body of our state ...
II.I.99
The divine intention suddenly shall be seen,
The end vindicate intuitions sure technique.
II.I.100
"Or we may find when all the rest has failed Hid in ourselves the key of perfect change."
In "Savitri," Mother.
(Satprem reads the introduction)
"Secrets are simple, because the truth is simple........ And what
looked like a human impossibility will become child's play."
Then Mother takes up a few extracts from Savitri
that are to be set to music.)
A little point [shall] reveal the infinitudes.
(Mother translates a few fragments from Savitri which were
chosen for her.)
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A miracle of the Absolute was born,
Infinity put on a finite soul,
All ocean lived within a wandering drop,
A time-made body housed the Illimitable.
To live this Mystery out our souls came here.
...........
A figure sole on Nature's giant stair,
He mounted towards an indiscernible end
On the bare summit of created things.
II.I.101-102
(Mother tries to read with difficulty a few lines from Savitri
written in large characters. These passages are meant
to be set to music.)
There walled apart by its own innerness
In a mystical barrage of dynamic light
He saw a lone immense high-curved world-pile
Erect like a mountain chariot of the Gods
Motionless under an inscrutable sky.
................
Once in the vigil of a deathless gaze
These grades had marked her giant downward plunge,
The wide and prone leap of a godheads fall.
Our life is a holocaust of the Supreme.
Has made her soul the body of our state....
II.I.97-99
Of our human state.
No, Mother, you'll tire your eyes.
Yes, Mother, there's no need to try.
Oh, no, Mother!
(Then Mother translates a few passages from Savitri,
including this one:)
It lends beauty to the terror of the gulfs
And fascinating eyes to perilous Gods,
Invests with grace the demon and the snake.
II.II.106
(Then Mother translates a few fragments of Savitri:)
This mire must harbour the orchid and the rose,
From her blind unwilling substance must emerge
A beauty that belongs to happier spheres.
II.II.107
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They can't get that into their heads.
He adds: "I suggested it might be better to gather and listen to Mother's voice (the recordings of the Wednesday and Friday classes), for even if one doesn't understand at all, your voice would do its inner work, which we are not able to comprehend. the child in contact with you. For all the suggestions, mine in cluded, seem to me arbitrary and worthless.... Mother, would it not be better for the teachers to concentrate exclusively on the subjects they teach, since you are there to look after spiritual life?"
He adds: "I suggested it might be better to gather and listen to
Mother's voice (the recordings of the Wednesday and Friday
classes), for even if one doesn't understand at all, your voice
would do its inner work, which we are not able to comprehend.
the child in contact with you. For all the suggestions, mine in
cluded, seem to me arbitrary and worthless.... Mother, would
it not be better for the teachers to concentrate exclusively on
the subjects they teach, since you are there to look after spiritual life?"
"Since you are there to look after spiritual life."
It's still the old idea. Still the old idea of the sage, the yogi, the sannyasin, the ... who represents spiritual life, while all others represent ordinary life - but it's not true! It's not true, not true at all.
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(Concerning two teachers at the Ashram's Center of Education
who wrote Mother asking if 'only' Sri Aurobindo should be
studied. Pavitra was present during this conversation.)
'If you carefully study what Sri Aurobindo has written on every subject ...
... a complete knowledge of the things of the world can be easily achieved.'
(Pavitra.) Yes, Mother.
(Pavitra:) But Mother, I had no intention of making any decision; but when S. sends one letter, two letters, and then asks for Mother's reply, I have no other option but to turn to you.
(Pavitra:) Yes, Mother, it's true.
(Pavitra.) I'm going to leave it as it is and simply tell him you said we should continue as before.
(Mother explains certain things)
Yes, Mother. (Pavitra leaves.)
(Mother's answer in English to the School's teachers when she
was told that the new special afternoon classes at the library
had chosen as a first research theme "India's
spiritual History.")
(Essays on the Gita)
Well, that's what should be done, it's much more important.
(Mother reads three different versions of a message
she wants to give for the opening of the School.
Then she selects the first one.)
(Then Mother listens to a series of questions about death,asked by pupils of the School.)
The first question: "What should we do in our daily life to haltthe process of death?"
Second question: "If the sense of 'I-ness' has identified more with the mind in life, is it the same sense of 'I-ness' that has all the experiences after death, that is to say, which retains at the same time the memories of its life? I ask the question with
regard to the mind, since after death it remains formed a little longer than the other parts do."
" ... Is it the same sense of 'I-ness' that has all the experiencesafter death?"
(Mother first writes at one go a message for the start of the new school year.)
(Mother first writes at one go a message for the
start of the new school year.)
One must have lived what one wants to teach.
To speak of the new consciousness, let it penetrate you and reveal
its secrets to you. For only then will you be able to speak of it with competence.
To leap into the new consciousness, the first condition is a mental modesty sufficient to be convinced that all one thinks one knows is nothing in comparison with what remains to be learned.
All that one has learned externally must be only a foothold enabling one to rise towards higher knowledge.
(Text of Mother's message to the teacher:)
"We (human beings) are not living for the satisfaction of our ego; we live to fulfill God's will. Bu t to be able to perceive and to know the will of God, we must be without desires and preferences. Other wise we mistake for God's will our own limited ideas and principles. It is in the wide peace of an absolute and devoted sincerity free from fixed ideas and preferences that we can realize the conditions required to know God's Will and it is with a fearless discipline that we must execute it."
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A lover of India
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talked and talked - great speculations. It didn't interest me in the least, I didn't listen. All these things belonged to the past, I had seen it all (I too had had my visions and revelations). I was simply sitting beside him on the floor (he was sitting in a chair with Richard facing him across a table, and they were talking). I was just sitting there, not listening. I don't know how long they went on, but all at once I felt a great Force come into me - a peace, a silence, something massive! It came, did this (Mother sweeps her hand across her forehead), descended and stopped here (gesture at the chest).[[Mother specified: "It encompassed the three active mental centers [the forehead, between the eyebrows, and the throat]." ]] When they finished talking, I got up and left. And then I noticed that not a thought remained - I no longer knew anything or understood anything, I was absolutely BLANK. So I gave thanks to the Lord and thanked Sri Aurobindo in my heart.
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(The night of the 5th, a violent cyclone struck Pondicherry. At
Nandanam, in the middle of the devastated garden, a white hi
biscus bloomed. Satprem places the flower on Mother's knees.)
A "Grace" flower bloomed in the thick of the cyclone, Mother.
(One can hear the axes hacking away at the broken branches of
the great yellow flame tree called "Service," which
spreads its foliage above Sri Aurobindo's tomb.)
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(A news item originating from Boulder, Colorado, and dated
August 8, reports a solar flare covering over 2.8 billion square
miles of the sun's surface. Within an hour of the eruption, the
effect was felt on earth, causing a magnetic storm that seriously
disrupted communications in many parts of the world In terms
of magnitude, the current sunspots are the greatest ever recorded
since at least 1964 [Indian Express, August 91.)
Ah?
I didn't hear it was falling to the earth.
I think it affects the earth atmosphere, the weather, but that's all.
It affects the atmosphere; for example, radio transmissions arescrambled. The atmosphere is affected, but that's about all.
I don't know, Mother.
But what do you say?
So you think these solar eruptions are some kind of precipitation of the supramental consciousness on earth?
Oh, it's very fast, [[Eight minutes. ]] Mother. It's alreadydone, it has already entered the earth's atmosphere.
Yes, it takes a few minutes.
Already here, yes. Radio transmissions, for example, have already been disrupted. Those solar eruptions occur in cycles. The phenomenon recurs at fixed intervals - I can't tell you exactly, I don't know if it's every ten or twenty years [[Eleven years. ]] ....
But this one is particularly strong, it seems.
Yes, cyclic. But I think its magnitude was quite extraordinarythis time.... Very unusual.
Yes, Mother. It's a substance in a state of nuclear fusion; like agigantic and incessant atomic explosion.
It's in a gaseous state. With constant atomic reactions. It's amillion times more powerful than the atomic bombs they have exploded on earth, and nonstop.
(long silenceMother laughs)
Certainly.... The sun is not really solid matter, you see, it's energy.
It isn't matter, it's energy.
Yes! [Laughter]
Sri Aurobindo and all the Vedic Rishis have always likenedthe Supermind to the sun....
So there must be some relationship, a correspondence.
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It's a problem. When you contact the Supraconscient and the Shakti emerges at the crown of the head, it's something rising from below, isn't it? Is it then another movement, an ascending movement...?
It's something that grows....
memory of the material, purely physical existence ONLY FOR THOSE MOMENTS WHEN IT PARTICIPATED. So, instead of all those stories that are told (and are made up), you only have memories like that (Mother draws a series of "points" in space with her fingertips), which may be more or less detailed, more or less complete, but which are only fragmentary memories of the MOMENT when the psychic physically manifested. Lots of people do have this sort of memory, but they don't know what it is. Most of the time they regard it as "dreams" or "imaginings." Those who know (that is to say, who are conscious of what goes on in their physical consciousness) can see that it's memories.
Sri Aurobindo says that "the soul is naked and unashamed,"[[Aphorism 350 - "Only the soul that is naked and unashamed can be pure and innocent, even as Adam was in the primal garden of humanity." ]] and you are asked, "Isn't the soul always pure?" So you reply:
"The soul wears no disguise, it shows itself as it is and cares nothing for people's judgement, because it is the faithful servant of the Divine whose home it is."
(This is an extract from a meeting with a few teachers from the
school. We owe these recordings to the kind cooperation
of one of them.)
What is the best way of preparing ourselves? For one clearly feels that all this is going to require a rather extensive prepa ration.
(Mother remains concentrated for a few moments)
(One of the teachers:) Was there a special descent?
We have heard about it....
This new life isn't the continuation of the old one, is it Mother,it has to spring up from within.
There is no common ground between the two....
(Mother closes her eyes)
Mother, can we give this as an objective to all children?
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But doesn't it mean that Your presence here could help him, onday, to materialize in another body?
Yes, but if it materializes, that's different. It's not the same thingas creating it.
If Sri Aurobindo materializes again, but in another body ...
In a living body, but made of another substance than the physi cal substance.
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(Nolini:) At the beginning, when he came to Pondicherry [in1910].
(Nolini:) He always used to say that Krishna and Kali were one
and the same being. Ramakrishna, too, once became a woman: God was Krishna and he became a woman; for a long time he had that impression.
(Satprem:) Yes, you write to T., "Sri Aurobindo had the geniusof humor and one only has to admire and be silent."
(Satprem:) It looks like the same experience as Ramakrishna's.
(Nolini:) At the time he used to sign letters not "Sri Aurobindo" but "Kali."
(Nolini:) Yes, always.... All the letters he wrote to Motilal were signed that way.
Nolini seems to say it was at the beginning.
At a time when he used to sign his letters "Kali" [around 1912].
He always signed his letters "Kali": the letters to Motilal, [[Motilal Roy, a disciple from Chandernagore with whom Sri Aurobindo corresponded between 1912 and 1920. ]] for instance.
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Ooh!
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(After the work, Mother begins speaking of her translation of 'The Synthesis of Yoga'.)
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(In the course of the preceding conversation, Satprem had thought that rather than a subjective change, a change in one's attitude towards things, there should be an objective change, a power capable of changing the very substance of things: their property of hardness, for instance. Here Mother elucidates her previous statement that "if matter were changeable, it would have changed long ago," a statement that, at first glance, seemed to shatter all hope of transformation.)
Yes, but when you say that what changes is only "the relations between things," it's still a matter of subjectivity (I use the word for lack of a better one). But when we come down to the brass tacks of transformation - physical immortality in the body, for instance - doesn't it involve more than a simple inner change of relations? Doesn't MATTER itself have to be transformed? So there has to be a power over matter. Not merely a change of relations ... no?
Yes, so then it's the interrelations that have to change.
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(Then Mother takes from the table by her side a few letters of SriAurobindo which she intends to publish, including these:)
"The prestige of an institution claiming to bea centre of spirituality lies in its spirituality (Mother laughs), not in newspaper columns or famous people."
"A sincere heart is worth all the extraordinary powers in the world."
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One day, I don't remember on what occasion, I saw what had motivated the "forefathers" who wrote the Vedas: it was the need for immortality; they were in quest of immortality. [[Mother added the beginning of this paragraph later: "I had forgotten to mention part of the experience!" ]] From there, I went on to Buddha and saw what had set the Buddha on his way: this kind of need for permanence, purely and simply; the vision of the impermanence of things had profoundly troubled him, and he felt the need for Permanence. His whole quest was to find the Permanent (why was he so anxious to have the Permanent?...). There are a few things like that in human nature, in the deep human need. And then I saw another such need: a need for the Certitude which is security. I don't know how to explain it.... Because I had the experience of it, I saw it was one of the human needs; and I understood it very intensely, for when I met Sri Aurobindo, this Certitude is what made me feel I had found the Truth I needed. And I didn't realize how DEEP this need was until he left his body - just then, at the moment of the transition. Then the entire physical consciousness felt its certitude and security collapse. At that moment I saw (we spoke about it with Nolini a year later and he had had exactly the same impression), I saw this was similar to Buddha's experience when he realized that everything was impermanent and so all of life collapsed ... in other words, Something Else HAD to be found. Well, at that moment.... I'd already had all my experiences, but with Sri Aurobindo, for the thirty years I lived with him (a little more than thirty years), I lived in an absolute, an absolute of security - a sense of total security, even physical, even the most material security. A sense of absolute security, because Sri Aurobindo was there. And it held me up, you know, like this (gesture of being carried): not for ONE MINUTE in those thirty years did it leave me. That was why I could do my work with a Base, really, a Base of absoluteness - of eternity and absoluteness. I realized it when he left: THAT suddenly collapsed.
And then I understood that it is one of life's needs (there are several); and it's what spurs the human being to get out of his present state and find another one. These needs are (what's the word?) ... the seeds, the germs of evolution. They compel us to progress. The whole time Sri Aurobindo was here, as I said, individual progress was automatic: all the progress Sri Aurobindo made, I made. But I was in a state of eternity, of absoluteness, with a feeling of such security, in every circumstance. Nothing, nothing unfortunate could happen, for he was there. So when he left, all at once - a fall into a pit. And that's what projected me wholly ... (Mother gestures forward).
That is, I understood why he left. The whole terrestrial evolution had come to a halt. One progressed - one can always progress, that's nothing - but the entire TERRESTRIAL evolution was at a standstill. If there were permanence in life, nothing would budge. And these needs are the seeds of evolution. So that's what I saw: in the past, in the future, universally. It was very interesting.
You said something mysterious the other day [December 41 concerning Sri Aurobindo's departure. You were speaking of the sense of impermanence you had, of total uncertainty, and you said, "It's no longer a destruction, but it's not yet an ascending transformation...."
What's the other side?
What do you mean, the other side?
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It looks like Sri Aurobindo's.
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Yesterday night Sri Aurobindo told me, 'They wouldn't have been satisfied unless they had been given a good pack of dubious miracles.'
That's exactly what they want - tales about miracles.
I don't believe your book can be changed - it's meaningless to snip at it. If you really want to know what I would do, I would write another one, putting myself in their place: something showing a comprehensible Sri Aurobindo - almost a congenial Sri Aurobindo - that is, only the constructive side of his teaching, in its most external form, leaving out ... not the philosophical notions, but the truly spiritual ones, for that is completely sealed to their understanding.
They are not ready! They are not ready.
Seen from the European angle, Sri Aurobindo represents an immense spiritual revolution, redeeming Matter and the creation, which to the Christian religion is fundamentally a fall - it's really unclear how what has come from God could become so bad, but anyway, better not be too logical! it's a fall. The creation is a fall. And that's why they are far more easily convinced by Buddhism. I saw this particularly with Richard, whose education was entirely in European philosophy, with Christian and positivist influences; under these two influences, when he came into contact with Theon's 'cosmic philosophy' and later Sri Aurobindo's revelation, he immediately explained, in his Wherefore of the Worlds, that the world is the fruit of Desire - God's desire. Yet Sri Aurobindo says (in simple terms), 'God created the world for the Joy of the creation,' or rather, 'He brought forth the world from Himself for the Joy of living an objective life.' This was Theon's thesis too, that the world is the Divine in an objective form, but for him the origin of this objective form was the desire to be. All this is playing with words, you understand, but it turns out that in one case the world is reprehensible and in the other it is adorable! And that makes all the difference. To the whole European mind, the whole Christian spirit, the world is reprehensible. And when THAT is pointed out to them, they can't stand it.
page 400 - Mother's Agenda, volume -2 , 20th Nov. 1961
(Mother reads a handwritten note)
(Mother reads Satprem a quotation from Sri Aurobindo:)
Sri Aurobindo.
But didn't you see Mridu? [[Who was Sri Aurobindo's cook, and round as a barrel; she left her body seven years earlier, in September 1962. ]]
But does one work there? What does one do? What do all thesepeople do?
Once you told me that you had seen Sri Aurobindo supramentalon his bed.... [[ See Agenda II of 15 July 1961. ]]
Was there an "extra" element there, or something that isn't therenow, or not yet there?
What I meant was: is it an element (I who don't see anything),an element not present now, or not yet present, or what?
But it was in Sri Aurobindo?
(Mother shakes her head and plunges in)
(Mother shakes her head again
and plunges back for a long time)
(Message from Mother:)
Sri Aurobindo came upon earth to announce the manifestation of the supramental world. Not only did he announce this manifestation, but he also partially incarnated the supramental force and gave us the example of what we must do to prepare ourselves for this manifestation. The best way for us is to study everything he told us, strive to follow his example and prepare ourselves for the new manifestation. This gives life its true meaning and will help us to overcome all obstacles.
Let us live for the new creation and we will become stronger and -stronger, while remaining young and progressive.
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Was it the Supreme at the very bottom of the Inconscient who cast you up directly to the Supreme? Yes. Because at the very bottom of the Inconscient is the Supreme. It is the same idea as the highest height touching the deepest depth. The universe is like a circle - it is represented by the serpent biting its tail, its head touching its tail. It means that the supreme height touches the most material matter, without any intermediary. I have already said this several times. But that was the experience. I didn't know what was happening. I expected nothing and ... it was stupendous - in a single bound, I sprang up! If someone had had his eyes open, I assure you he would have had to laugh: I was bent over, like this, more and more, more and more, more and more, my head was just about to touch my knees when suddenly - vrrrm! Straight, straight up, my head upright in a single bound! But as soon as you want to express it, it escapes like water running through your fingers; all the fluidity is lost, it evaporates. A rather vague, poetic or artistic expression is much truer, much nearer to the truth - something hazy, nebulous, undefined. Something not concretized like a rigid mental expression - this rigidity that the mind has introduced right down into the Inconscient. This vision of the Inconscient ... (Mother remains gazing for a moment) it was the MENTAL Inconscient. Because the starting point was mental. A special Inconscient - rigid, hard, resistant - with all that the mind has brought into our consciousness. But it was far worse, far worse than a purely material Inconscient! A 'mentalized' Inconscient, as it were. All this rigidity, this hardness, this narrowness, this fixity - a FIXITY - comes from the presence of the mind in creation. When the mind was not manifested, the Inconscient was not like that! It was formless and had the plasticity of something that is formless - the plasticity has gone. It is a terrible image of the Mind's action in the Inconscient. page 232 - Mother's Agenda, volume 1, 11th Nov. - 1958
Yes. Because at the very bottom of the Inconscient is the Supreme. It is the same idea as the highest height touching the deepest depth. The universe is like a circle - it is represented by the serpent biting its tail, its head touching its tail. It means that the supreme height touches the most material matter, without any intermediary. I have already said this several times. But that was the experience. I didn't know what was happening. I expected nothing and ... it was stupendous - in a single bound, I sprang up! If someone had had his eyes open, I assure you he would have had to laugh: I was bent over, like this, more and more, more and more, more and more, my head was just about to touch my knees when suddenly - vrrrm! Straight, straight up, my head upright in a single bound!
But as soon as you want to express it, it escapes like water running through your fingers; all the fluidity is lost, it evaporates. A rather vague, poetic or artistic expression is much truer, much nearer to the truth - something hazy, nebulous, undefined. Something not concretized like a rigid mental expression - this rigidity that the mind has introduced right down into the Inconscient.
This vision of the Inconscient ... (Mother remains gazing for a moment) it was the MENTAL Inconscient. Because the starting point was mental. A special Inconscient - rigid, hard, resistant - with all that the mind has brought into our consciousness. But it was far worse, far worse than a purely material Inconscient! A 'mentalized' Inconscient, as it were. All this rigidity, this hardness, this narrowness, this fixity - a FIXITY - comes from the presence of the mind in creation. When the mind was not manifested, the Inconscient was not like that! It was formless and had the plasticity of something that is formless - the plasticity has gone.
It is a terrible image of the Mind's action in the Inconscient.
page 232 - Mother's Agenda, volume 1, 11th Nov. - 1958
When one descends into the subconscient, a time comes when it's no longer personal - the whole world is there! Then what can we do? I'm not speaking of you, but what can people like us do to change it? It's a Sisyphean labor! Vibrations from the whole world keep coming in at each instant. How can we change it?
No, what I mean is that as we progress, we automatically become universalized....
And we are told that we have to change the Subconscient, to bring Light into it; but being universal it has no end! New vibrations keep coming in at every instant ... No! ... vibrations from the outside, from here, there - it's endless. How can we change it? No, it isn't endless - it's limited to the earth's atmosphere. That's already quite a lot! Yes, but not endless. Then how can we act upon it - all these vibrations that keep pouring in from all over the world, from the whole earth? It isn't difficult - the minute you become universalized you act upon the whole. Even Buddha said that if you have a vibration of desire, this vibration goes all around the terrestrial atmosphere. The opposite is what's impossible! It's impossible to separate yourself. You can have the idea of being separate, but you can't be separate in reality. In fact, if you are trying to eliminate the Subconscient in yourself your movement must necessarily be general; it can't be personal, you would never get anywhere. Yes, of course, but these vibrations are ceaselessly re-created. No, they are not re-created. But there are people having wrong movements at every instant, so ... ? So it all keeps circling round and round in the earth's atmosphere. But compared to the universe, the earth's atmosphere is a very tiny thing. Well, all this keeps circling around within it. And in fact, because of the movement of evolution, there is a progress. The present Inconscient is not as unconscious as the initial Inconscient, and the present Subconscient is not as subconscious nor as generalized as it was at the beginning. This is the meaning of terrestrial evolution. But if, as you say, it keeps circling around in the earth's atmosphere, doesn't this mean that vibrations are ceaselessly re-created? Not re-created - they keep circling around, which is not the same thing! A re-creation would mean that a new contingent of the Inconscient and Subconscient would come in from other spheres, or from the Supreme - well, this isn't the case. We consider the Inconscient to be an 'accident': if it happened, it happened; but it's not part of an infinite and eternal creation. Then are our vibrations of consciousness effective for changing these general vibrations? Ah, yes! In fact, we are the first possible instruments for making the world progress. For example (this is one way of putting it), the transformation of the Inconscient into the Subconscient is probably far more rapid and complete now than it was before man appeared upon earth; man is one of the first transformative elements. Animals are obviously more conscious than plants, but WILLED (and thus more rapid) progress belongs to humanity. Likewise, what one hopes (more than hopes!), what one expects is that when the new supramental race comes upon earth, the work will go much more swiftly; and man will necessarily benefit from this. And since things will be done in true order instead of in mental disorder, animals and everything else will probably benefit from it also. In other words, the whole earth, taken as one entity, will progress more and more rapidly. The Inconscient (oh, all this comes to me in English, that's the difficulty!) is meant to go and necessarily the Subconscient will go too. Broadly speaking, does this mean that physical Matter will become conscious? Yes, in a certain way. It will become receptive. The mode of life won't necessarily change, but the form of life will change. Matter will become responsive. Do we say that in French? Receptive? ... No, receptive is one thing and responsive is another. To respond: Matter will respond to the conscious will. Indeed, this is why there is hope - how else could there be a transformation? Things would always remain as they are! What kind of earth would it be for the supramental race to live on if no Matter gave response, if Matter did not begin to vibrate and respond to the Will? The same difficulties would always be there. And it isn't limited: for instance, even if we imagine a power over the body making corporeal life different, this new corporeal life still has to exist within an environment - it can't remain hanging in thin air! The environment must respond. It's quite obvious that the Inconscient, the Subconscient and the semi-conscient are accidental; they are not a permanent part of the creation, so are bound to disappear, to be transformed. Years ago, when Sri Aurobindo and I descended together from plane to plane (or from mode of life to mode of life) and reached the Subconscient, we saw that it was no longer individual: it was terrestrial. The rest - the mind, the vital and of course the body - is individualized; but when you descend below this level, that's no longer the case. There is indeed something between the conscious life of the body and this subconscious terrestrial life - elements are thrown out [[I.e., they are cast aside or eliminated from the individual Subconscient. ]] as a result of the action of individual consciousness upon the subconscious substance; this creates a kind of semiconsciousness, and that stays. For example, when people are told, 'You have pushed your difficulty down into the subconscient and it will resurface,' this does not refer to the general Subconscient, but to something individualized out of the Subconscient through the action of individual consciousness and remaining down there until it resurfaces. The process is, so to speak, interminable, even the personal part of it. Every night, you know, I continue to see more and more astounding things emerging from the Subconscient to be transformed. It's a kind of mixture - not clearly individualized - of all the things that have been more or less closely associated in life. For example, some people are intermingled there. One relives things almost as in a dream (although these are not 'dreams'), one relives it all in a certain setting, within a certain set of symbolic, or at any rate expressive, circumstances. Just two days ago I had to deal with someone (I am actively at work there and I had to do something with him), and upon seeing this person, I asked myself, 'is he this one or that one?' As I became less involved in the action and looked with a more objective consciousness, the witness-consciousness, I saw that it was simply a mixture of both persons - everything is mixed in the Subconscient.... Already when I lived in Japan there were four people I could never distinguish during my nighttime activities - all four of them (and god knows they weren't even acquainted!) were always intermingled because their subconscious reactions were identical. page 289-293 , Mother's Agenda , volume 2 , 2nd Aug. 1961.
... vibrations from the outside, from here, there - it's endless. How can we change it?
That's already quite a lot!
Then how can we act upon it - all these vibrations that keep pouring in from all over the world, from the whole earth?
Yes, of course, but these vibrations are ceaselessly re-created.
But there are people having wrong movements at every instant, so ... ?
But if, as you say, it keeps circling around in the earth's atmosphere, doesn't this mean that vibrations are ceaselessly re-created?
Then are our vibrations of consciousness effective for changing these general vibrations?
Broadly speaking, does this mean that physical Matter will become conscious?
I saw a text by Sri Aurobindo that I found interesting....
Theresa question in fact. ...It's a letter [[In fact a conversation: see Talks with Sri Aurobindo by Nirodbaran, part I, p 179-180. ]] in which he refers to the first period in the Ashram, when everyone was having "great experiences"; afterwards, there was a descent to the physical level. So he says:
"Working on the physical is like digging the ground; the physical is absolutely inert, dead like stone. When the work began there, all former energies disappeared, experiences stopped; if they came they didn't last. The progress is exceedingly slow. One rises, falls; rises again and falls again,
constantly meeting with the suggestions of the Vedic Asuras, 'You can't do anything, you are bound to fail.'
"You have to go on working and working year after year, point after point, till you come to a central point in the subconscient which has to be conquered and it is the crux of the whole problem, hence exceedingly difficult.... This point in the subconscient is the seed and it goes on sprouting and sprouting till you have cut out the seed."
7 January 1939
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When I say "Happy new year" to people, that's what I pass on to them. And this morning, I've spent my time like that, spontaneously saying, "Happy new year, happy new year ...." So ...
page 17-18 , Mother's Agenda , volume 10 , 1st Jan - 1969
When you spoke last time, you had identified it.
Later, you said, "Maybe the superman?"
page 26 , Mother's Agenda , volume 10 , 8th Jan - 1969
Yes, you said, "Power's what will come first."
Because those beings will need to be protected.
I was wondering how, individually, this consciousness will act,for instance outside you?
I mean, this consciousness will not act on the mind so much as on bodies?
It's a guide, basically.
It's five to eleven.
Notes of Auroville's architect
1. To build Auroville, do we need a method of work ing, organization, coordination?
2. What should the nature of this organization be?In the Present and in the Future.
3. Until we have a common consciousness and thetrue and correct way of working collectively is in operation, what should we do?
4. Should we use methods of organization of provenefficiency, but based on human logic and the use of machines?
5. Should we let the individual initiative manifestfreely, personal action be impelled by inspiration and intuition, and turn down any suggestion which the individual concerned does not feel to be good?
6. Has the time come to aspire to, set up or attempta general organization, or should we wait for the correct attitude and people?
7. If the solution is to wait, is it nevertheless necessary to define principles of organization and to prevent the occurrence of an uncontrollable disorder?
February 6, 1969
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(Mother's reply)
What I mean is that it's not necessarily in trance, in another world, that one gets the supramental consciousness....
It's something the Rishis realized with eyes wide open, in day to-day life, if I understand rightly.
But surely this supramental consciousness is something to be found in the body? [[Mother does not reply directly to this question (although she would probably have answered in the affirmative, since the point is indeed to LIVE this supramental consciousness), but she does reply directly to what is BEHIND Satprem's question - that is, this fundamental, deep-rooted assumption that physical life is the sole, concrete reality. ]]
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(On this day Mother gave the following message
for the opening of the sports season.)
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You said there had been a step forward. Is there something new?
Yes, but you are talking about "switching" to a new body?
(The conversation is cut short by the doctor's entry)
You were speaking of the first form of supramental life.
Yes, in an "improved physical body." I wondered about that ... especially when you speak of "switching to a new body."
This, in particular: The difference between the present human body and the supramental creation is so considerable, the substance must be so different...
... that I am wondering to what extent even an improved physical body could be of use? Because the thing is going to be so different. Whether this body is old and bent or young and very supple, does it really make any difference, since ...
Switching to a new body?
When I thought about the last conversation again, it seemed to me that the gap between the two creations, the animal and the supramental, is so huge that it doesn't make much difference whether the body is more supple and so on.
Exactly, I suddenly remembered in this connection a quotation from Sri Aurobindo that seemed to me interesting. It's in "The Human Cycle," at the end of "The Human Cycle." Here's what he says: "It may well be that, once started, it [the supramental endeavour] may not advance rapidly even to its first decisive stage; it may be that it will take long centuries of effort to come into some kind of permanent birth. But that is not altogether inevitable, for the principle of such changes in Nature seems to be a long obscure preparation followed by a swift gathering up and precipitation of the elements into the new birth, a rapid conversion, a transformation that in its luminous moment figures like a miracle."[[The Human Cycle, Cent. Ed. XV.252. ]]
Orange?
Two years?
Oh!
Then you go on [Satprem takes up the text again], and there'sanother ambiguity:
"What will that being be like who will come afterthe superman? I don't know.... Because we are still much too human; when we visualize the Supreme Consciousness in a form, the Supreme Being and so on - the Supreme - we tend to give it a form similar to the human one, but that's our old habit.... I saw that being ...
So here, are you referring to the supramental being, or to thebeing intermediary between man and the supramental? You say:
"I saw that being (I saw it many years ago): it was clearly a far more harmonious and expressive form than the human one....
The intermediary being?
The next or future being?
"I saw that future being (I saw it many years ago):it was clearly a far more harmonious and expres sive form than the human one, but there was a likeness, it was still a human form, that is to say, with a head and arms and legs and ... Will it be that? I don't know. There will necessarily be that as an intermediary - necessarily. There were all those kinds of apes which acted as intermediaries
between the animal and man.... But lightness, invulnerability, moving about at will, luminosity at will - all that goes without saying....
You mean that it's part of the supramental?
"Also clothing at will: its not something foreignadded on, it's the substance that takes on certain forms."
Probably the difference between man and superman will be morea difference of consciousness than a material difference?
It would be something already!
But one may conceive that a higher consciousness would"aestheticize," harmonize this material substance....
But the step beyond that is what's more incomprehensible.
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FIRST SUPRAMENTAL MANIFESTATION
(During the common meditationon
on Wednesday the 29th February 1956)
This evening the Divine Presence, concrete and material, was there present amongst you. I had a form of living gold, bigger than the universe, and I was facing a huge and massive golden door which separated the world from the Divine.
As I looked at the door, I knew and willed, in a single movement of consciousness, that THE TIME HAS COME', and lifting with both hands a mighty golden hammer I struck one blow, one single blow2 on the door and the door was shattered to pieces.
Then the supramental Light and Force and Consciousness rushed down upon earth in an uninterrupted flow.
page 69 , Mother Agenda , vol - 1 , 1951-1960 , 29th february - 1956
(Mother goes and gets a photo, then looks at it)
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But what prevents the two from joining?
I didn't receive a promise - this Voice made me remember a promise I had made. I was saying to myself, "How to connect this true Consciousness to the other one - it's impossible! " And just then I seemed to hear ... not Sri Aurobindo exactly, because then you immediately think of a particular body, but that sort of Voice saying to me, "Your promise. You said you would do the Work." So that's when I said, "Yes, I shall do the Work." And from that moment on the process of materialization began, the entire transition from the true Consciousness to the ordinary consciousness.
I didn't receive a promise, but a reminder of the promise I had made.
When I was those gusts, those gusts of Love.... When I was conscious of the last one, the one organized outwardly, as it were, by Sri Aurobindo - materializing as the avatar Sri Aurobindo - then came the absolute certainty that the thing was done, that it was decreed.
And the moment I became aware that it was decreed, I thought, "But how can THAT be translated into that? How can the two be joined?" That was when the words came: "You promised to do it, therefore you will do it"; and slowly the transition began, as if I were again being sent back to do it. Yes, as if ... "You promised to do it and you will do it"; well, that's what I meant by a promise. And I came back towards this body to do it.
I said [on April 3] the body was the battlefield, that the battle was being waged IN this body. And then in that experience [of April 13] I was sent back into the body, because the thing - that last creative gust - had to be realized through this body.
Striking though the parallel may be, there is still a fundamental difference between these mathematical concepts and Mother's experience. In the first case, we are dealing with conceptual instruments used by the human mind to better explain and master the world: no one has actually seen electromagnetic waves - not to speak of gravitational ones! They are images, convenient "models," invisible and nonexistent in themselves. They exist only through their effects: a beam of sunlight, which is an electromagnetic wave, strikes our retina and enables us to distinguish a flower; by means of gravitational waves, Newton's apple falls from the tree - but no one has lived the reality of those waves. The way Mother grasps reality, on the contrary, is first and foremost through lived experience. She is the movement, she is the wave: "I walk around the room, and that is what is walking." Here we touch upon a stupendous mystery and a formidable question: How is it possible for a material and cellular body to be the wave that at once constitutes and carries the worlds along in its infinite undulating movement and governs the existence of atoms and galaxies? How is it possible to be an infinite and ubiquitous electromagnetic wave while remaining within the narrow confines of a human body?
In being THAT, it might be said, Mother thus resolves the famous question of the "unified-field theory," the theory to which Einstein devoted the last years of his life in vain, that would describe the movements of both planets and atoms in a single mathematical equation. Mother's body-consciousness is one with the movement of the universe, Mother lives the "unified-field theory" in her body. In so doing she opens up to us not merely one more physical theory, but the very path to a new species on earth, a species that will physically and materially live on the scale of the universe. The posthuman species might not simply be one with a few organs more or less, but rather one capable of being at every point in the universe. A sort of material ubiquity. It may not be so much a "new" as an ubiquitous species, a species that embraces everything, from the blade of grass under our feet to the "far" galaxies. A multifarious, undulating existence. A resume or epitome of evolution, really, which at the end of its course again becomes each point and each species and each movement of its own evolution.
Because, to tell the truth, if things are the way I have seen them (the way I have seen and felt them), then at the least a very serious beginning of transformation should be taking place - and well, for that, you know ... years are nothing! Years are no time at all. Everybody's in a hurry, absolutely insisting I resume my life; for the moment, I see no possibility of it
A projection of yours - an emanation?
I wanted to mention something curious. Since you came up stairs in March, Sujata says that whenever she sees you at night she sees you taller than you were before!
"It's peculiar, "she says, "since March I have been seeing Mother taller."
(Referring back to the conversation of July 4: "One must die unto death to be born to Immortality.")
I felt there was something in it....
When you said it, I felt it held a secret.
(Mother listens to a passage from Satprem's manuscript concerning the vital and the mechanism by which vibrations enter one's being.)
But the body very distinctly feels that things are ALWAYS that way. Always that way. And that everything ... oh, the feeling of just how artificial all life's complications and problems are, and how different it could be! That's always in the background. For example, whenever the body feels ill at ease or something isn't working right, there's always a kind of deep feeling behind that it's just bad habits - which are lingering, fading away, losing their force and becoming more and more unreal. But it's ... it's like a machine that takes time to run down.
In the other consciousness (the human consciousness), you have the joy, the excitement of the experience; that has completely gone away, absolutely. There's neither the joy of the experience nor the wonder nor.... Everything is so obvious, so obvious: that's IT. And it's not something you're looking at: it's LIKE THAT. That's all, it's just like that.
Somewhere in the active consciousness something KNOWS, constantly, that all the complications and miseries and misfortunes (I mean all the things we call life's "misfortunes") are ... a bad habit, nothing more. And it's hard for us to change our habits. Yet THE TIME HAS COME to change habits.
It's just a bad habit.
I can see I am still (and God knows how long it will last!) in that transitional period Sri Aurobindo describes in "The Yoga of Self-Perfection." A period when the true thing is getting established but the tail of the old thing trails behind, mixes in and colors things. Well, it's an old habit, and it takes SUCH a long time to go away.
I don't quite understand. Didn't you have the experience of the Supreme before Sri Aurobindo's departure?
I'd like to ask you a question on death.
Yes, it refers to dualities: life and death, error and knowledge, love and cruelty.... We can, of course, leave aside any question on death, but that was the question that came to me.
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This immense ship had just arrived at the shore of the supramental world, and a first batch of people destined to become the future inhabitants of the supramental world were about to disembark. Everything was arranged for this first landing. A certain number of very tall beings were posted on the wharf. They were not human beings and never before had they been men. Nor were they permanent inhabitants of the supramental world. They had been delegated from above and posted there to control and supervise the landing. I was in charge of all this since the beginning and throughout. I myself had prepared all the groups. I was standing on the bridge of the ship , calling the groups forward one by one and having them disembark on the shore. The tall beings posted there seemed to be reviewing those who were disembarking, allowing those who were ready to go ashore and sending back those who were not and who had to continue their training aboard the ship. While standing there watching everyone, that part of my consciousness coming from here became extremely interested: it wanted to see, to identify all the people, to see how they had changed and to find out who had been taken immediately as well as those who had to remain and continue their training. After awhile, as I was observing, I began to feel pulled backwards and that my body was being awakened by a consciousness or a person from here' - and in my consciousness, I protested: 'No, no, not yet! Not yet! I want to see who's there!' I was watching all this and noting it with intense interest ... It went on like that until, suddenly, the clock here began striking three, which violently jerked me back. There was the sensation of a sudden fall into my body. I came back with a shock, but since I had been called back very suddenly, all my memory was still intact. I remained quiet and still until I could bring back the whole experience and preserve it.
page 138 , Mother's Agenda , volume 1 , 3rd Feb. - 1958
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(Note written by Mother after an experience She had during a
playground meditation when Swami J.J. was present. It was
this swami with whom Satprem journeyed in the Himalayas
to receive tantric initiation.')
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I feel the second movement: a sense of expanse, it is all white and open.
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(Mother picks up a letter on her table)
[Satprem reads an endless letter:] He asks, "Should I sell my car for less than 35,000 rupees? Can I consult 'I Ching' and go deeper into its study?..."
"I Ching." I don't know, it's a Chinese name.
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(Extracts from a meeting with the schoolteachers. One of them
complains that the first signs of violence are showing up
in the children.)
(Excerpts from a conversation with the teachers. One of them
complains about the "lack of coordination.")
Excerpts from a meeting with the teachers.
(At the end of a long and distressing conversation that exposes
the grudges of a particular individual against her neighbor,
then angry remarks, then finally a request for "blessings" for a
new trucking company, with a photo of the truck on the back
of which Mother is asked to write something, one of the
teachers announces that an epidemic of chickenpox and
mumps has broken out at the school among the students and
teachers, and that one of them has typhoid fever. Mother
listens to all that.... This will be the last meeting with the teachers.)
(the teachers laugh, uncomprehending)
(silence,
one of the teachers explains
that the incubation period lasts from 3 to 4 weeks)
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Mother compares the Truth to a pure white light,
then continues:)
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Eight is the symbol of infinity for mathematicians (oo).
(Then Mother considers one by one the various figures of the Tantric diagram:)
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(On 1 November 1954 Pondicherry and the other French settlements in India were transferred to the Indian Union. To celebrate the occasion the flag with Mother's symbol at its centre was hoisted at the Ashram at 6.20 a.m., when Mother read out the following message.)
For us the 1st November has a deep significance. We have a flag which Sri Aurobindo called the Spiritual Flag of United India. Its square form, its colour and every detail of its design have a symbolic meaning. It was hoisted on the 15th August 1947 when India became free. It will now be hoisted on the 1st November 1954 when these settlements get united with India and it will be hoisted in the future whenever India recovers other parts of herself. United India has a special mission to fulfil in the world. Sri Aurobindo laid down his life for it and we are prepared to do the same.
1 November 1954
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(silence )
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If you approach me in the hope
of obtaining favours, you will be
frustrated, because I have no
powers at my disposal.
"Ceux qui viennent a moi avec
l'intention d'obtenir des faveurs
sont déçus, parce que je ne
détiens pas de pouvoirs.
But how is your renouncing or your having no powers sufficient to sweep the adverse forces away?
That you announced it?
(Mother goes on copying her note)
You'll have a lot of difficulty driving that into people's heads!
No, what should be asked, since we're always asking for something, is for the substance to become conscious enough to receive the Force and itself work its own "miracle," get cured, or this or that, anyway do the work.
Mother comments again on her declaration: "I possess no powers."
They haven't understood.... But anyway, it's going on in the subconscient.
The perfection is there coexistent
with the imperfection and attainable
at each and any moment.
"To be receptive is to feel the urge to give
and the joy of giving to the Divine's Work
all one has
all one is
all one does."
"To be pure is to refuse ...
"... to refuse any influence other than
that of the supreme Truth-Love."
"Truth-Love" as one word.
"To be sincere is to unify one's entire being
around the supreme inner Will."
"To be integral is to make a harmonious
synthesis of all one's possibilities."
The inspiration of it all was that vein of gold?
(Soon afterwards, Mother files an answer she has just sent to a disciple.)
"You feel lonely because you want to be loved.
Learn the joy of loving without demand, just
for the JOY OF LOVING - the most wonderful
joy in the world - and you will never more
feel lonely."
(Mother shows Satprem a note she has entitled "The rungs of Love")
"At first one loves only when one is loved....
"Next one loves spontaneously ...
"... but one wants to be loved in return.
"... but one still wants one's love to be accepted.
"And finally one loves purely and simply without
any other need or joy than that of loving."
(Mother first reads her "message" for the year 1967:)
Men, countries, continents!
The choice is imperative:
Truth or the abyss.
"One should be careful not to scorn what one
does not understand, for innumerable are the
marvels sealed from our narrow view.
"The Lord has unsuspected splendors which
He reveals progressively to our too limited under
standing."
(Message for Sri Aurobindo's ninety-fifth birthday:)
(Mother hands to Satprem the message she has given for February 21, her ninety-first birthday anniversary:)
"It is only immutable peace that can make possible eternity of existence."
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"One after the other, these vital beings came," you say, "and some of them have even been in men...."
And the realization of the inner Divine?
The only experience of my life was that world of music - it was overwhelming. It was so.... It was the Divine!
Now that's what I call an experience.
Simply while I was sleeping one night. In Ceylon.
Towards the end of the night, I suppose, because I woke up and I was ... I don't know, for a good two hours I was like someone in a state of shock. "It's not possible," I was saying, "it's not possible." I really couldn't get over it.
What did it depict?
But where does the significance of figures come from?
"But I can tell you about my own experience. Until the age of about twenty-five, I only knew the God of religions, God as men made him, and I did not want him at any cost. I denied his existence with the certitude that if such a God existed, I detested him.
"Around twenty-five, I found the inner God, and at the same time I learned that the God described by most Western religions was none other than the Great Adversary.
"When I came to India ...
It was in 1903.
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(Mother brings with her the continuation of the first seven
Sutras written by Her, probably in 1957.')
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The central circle represents the Divine Consciousness.
The four petals represent the four powers of the Mother.
The twelve petals represent the twelve powers
of the Mother manifested for Her Work.
January 24, 1958
Yes, I think it was for Auroville.
I saw it recently.
(Sujata goes out in search of the paper)
(Mother extends a note in English)
The central circle represents the Divine Consciousness. The four petals represent the four powers of the Mother. The twelve petals represent the twelve powers of the Mother manifested for Her Work.
There aren't any details.
You simply say:
The dot at the center represents unity, the Supreme.The inner circle represents the creation, the conception of the city [Auroville]. The petals represent the power of expression, the realization. [[Original English. ]]
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Spontaneously, I'd say it's the fire or the breath that carries the whole world. It's the fire that makes everything live - that makes the chest breathe, that makes the sea heave ...
What would YOU say?
It's the substance of the world, what constitutes the world.
It's the breath or the force that carries the world - that makes it be.
Oh no! You are the one who must find it.
Because otherwise, we are lost in abstractions.
But how do YOU perceive consciousness?
(Mother looks at the child's letter and hands it to Satprem)
It's not true, the Rishis always spoke of Fire, "Agni," which is the primordial substance.
Yes, it becomes consciousness - it is consciousness. It's consciousness-force. The Rishis said, "Even in the stone he is there, even in the waters he is there."
In the Upanishads, they say "tapas"[[Tapas: energy or heat, or also the concentration of the power of consciousness. ]] created the world.
It's fire, too.
Chit-Tapas is heat.
But Sri Aurobindo always said "Consciousness-Force," indissolubly. We can't separate one from the other. There is no consciousness without force and no force without consciousness - it's Consciousness-Force. That's what the world is!
No, your definition first, that's the first stage! Then the second stage, the human.
(Mother laughs and writes:)
It's for you to say.
I don't know.... Consciousness is the breath or the fire that carries everything.
The breath that carries everything, that makes everything breathe?
(Mother writes:)
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But then what is this consciousness we feel like a force inside us? For instance, sometimes in meditation it rises, then descends; it's not fixed anywhere. What is this consciousness?
That must be why I can't distinguish between the Force coming from above and the Force coming from within.
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(On that day, Mother gave the following answer to a question
asked by one of the Ashram's associations:)
What is the change the world is preparing for?How can one help it?
Is it possible to develop in oneself a capacity forhealing?
By consciously uniting with the Divine Force, all is possible in principle. But a procedure has to be found, depending on the case and the individual.
The first condition is to have a physical nature that gives energy rather than draws energy from others.
The second indispensable condition is to know how to draw energy from above, from the one impersonal and inexhaustible source.
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I told him Tibet would become independent again. He asked me when. I said, "I don't know." [[Mother replied, "All depends on the world's receptivity to the supramental consciousness." We publish in the Addendum an account of the Dalai Lama's questions and Mother's answers. ]]
Page 351,
Mother's Agenda - vol 13 – 1972-73
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Sri Aurobindo December 24, 1930
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The vibrations of the beings out there must be rather identical to ours?
The forms are different, of course, but the vibrations?
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Why? Are there lots of people who tend to "pull"?
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X has spoken to me several times of his lack of esteem formost people in the Ashram: 'Why does Mother keep all these empty pots?' he says.
on the earth, a greater preparation on the earth, and at the same time, that greater preparation on the earth isn't possible without an acceleration of your transforming force.
Yes, but it should be done in the space of one lifetime.
It would be good for that minute to come soon.
But the whole body could be driven by that force. The body could remain supple, for instance. While still having its bone structure, it could remain supple, with the suppleness of a child.
The same elements could be there, but endowed with suppleness. Elements whose firmness doesn't stem from hardness but from the force of light, no?
It seems miraculous, but ...
(After Satprem has read to Mother the conversation of September 30, in which she envisaged the transition from man to the new being.)
Yes, but where would a "new being" come from? He won'tdrop from heaven, will he?!
Well, yes, that is the whole story of human improvement.
That's what Sri Aurobindo also says. That being must be worked out.
All that is quite conceivable in the long term.
But Sri Aurobindo and you are here so it's done in the short term!
Anyway, so it's done by you. Whether in the long or the shortterm, so it's done by you in this life and this body.
(Mother gives Satprem a flower called "Transformation.")
Why the "right one"?
But then, in stages means centuries and centuries....
But it seems that the TIME has come, doesn't it?
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so. Because, otherwise, it would really needcenturies and centuries and centuries.
Yes, of course.
But still, the world has reached such an acute state of sufferingand pain that ...
The time has come for ONE body to change itself sufficiently togive a concrete hope to humanity.
Yes, perhaps, but not only that, because the day that Powerwould have entered your matter so totally, you would have the possibility of passing it on to other bodies that were ready.
Yes, yes, I understand.
Yes, yes, Mother.
Sujata told me about the experience you had the other day,that vision you had of your body, the transitional body.
But this form is in the subtle physical, isn't it?
But how will it pass into the physical?
But what's mysterious is the transition from one to the other.
Oh, no, Mother! It's more colossal than that! It's more colossalfor, after all, there isn't that much difference between a chim panzee and a man.
Yes, but I mean the way a chimpanzee functions and the way a man functions are the same.
Well, yes! They digest the same, breathe the same.... Whereas here....
Yes, he probably absorbs energies directly.
Yes, Mother, I understand very well.
(Satprem rests his forehead on
Mother's knees. Sujata approaches)
(Satprem:) Yes, I understand too.
Yes, certainly.
(Satprem, wordlessly:) Sleeping Beauty!
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(Just at the doorstep, as She is leaving, Mother tells the disci
ple that She had seen three books, a trilogy, and the third one
would be about Her. And She adds:)
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(Regarding the School's pupils:)
(Mother gives Satprem her latest notes.)
Put yourself at the service of Truth, and you will know the Truth.
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But they don't seem - the leaders at least - to have understood at all.
Oh, they're afraid of everything.
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"Tolerance is only the first step towards wisdom. The need to tolerate indicates the presence of preferences. He whose consciousness is one with the Supreme Consciousness meets all things with a perfect equanimity"
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Question
Are the Americans' presence and intervention in Vietnam justifiable?
Mother's answer
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(Pavitra shows Mother a photograph of the house in which
She lived in Paris, rue du Val de Grâce)
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About the discovery of the Supermind in the Veda and by Sri Aurobindo. There is something I don't quite grasp.
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In line with this idea of things 'in their place,' another question comes to me: with the descent of the Supermind, what exactly are the very first things that the supramental force will want to or is trying to dislodge?
Yes, individually and cosmically, so that everything is in its place.
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What's worse is that when they do speak of Sri Aurobindo, they put him on a level with everybody else.
You know, Sri Aurobindo, Teilhard de Chardin, Schweitzer and so on and so forth.
If you want peace in the world or upon earth,
first establish peace in your heart.
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(A little later, Mother listens to Satprem read various letters of
Sri Aurobindo, then a letter she herself wrote in English
during World War II about the attitude of the disciples
toward Hitler and the Allies.)
The Mother
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4 means Manifestation
5 means Power
6 means New Creation
7 means Realization."
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I don't know about that!
Umm....
Thirty-seven years.
You will be here too!
(very long silence)
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(Satprem goes out to fetch Andre. They return together.)
(Andre:) Well, Satprem would like to know what's happening with his books....
Yes. And by the same token, it would be good if we could know - if someone in the Ashram could know - what exactly M. is doing with Sri Aurobindo's books.
I'll go further, Mother: for the last two years, I haven't been able to put my hand on the corrections made to the film negatives, I mean the offset reproduction of the Centenary edition [of Sri Aurobindo's works].
Yes, there were. I know there were because M. told me so. I asked him for a list....
There's a boy working with him who makes the corrections.
I don't know how serious these are, I have no idea.
True, Mother.
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Oh, yes! I remain conscious. But nothing's there any more. It's clear, it's luminous, and there's absolutely nothing.
I hear noises.
I can still physically hear what's going on around me.
But isn't it a sort of annihilation?
(long silenceMother tunes in to Satprem)
Yes, one leaves that state refreshed, rested.
I myself had an experience lasting the full half hour of the meditation.
Nothing was left but an immensity, without beginning, without end, neither in space nor in time - outside time. Outside time and space: an immensity of light. It was something of the same nature as light, but not light - far brighter, far ... not bright: far more intense than light. It was white, but not our physical white; it was a white ... at the time I couldn't define it. Afterwards, looking at it again in my consciousness, it seemed to be the light of a gold turned white, you understand: like when you bring something to white heat. Well, it was like gold becoming white through its intensity. It was ABSOLUTELY immobile - that is, I had the feeling you get in Sat. [[Sat: Pure Being or Existence. ]] Yet that immobility contained (how shall I put it?) ... yes, it actively contained - although its action wasn't perceptible - a sort of infinite Power, which could be the creative Power. And directed by an unmanifest Consciousness.... If you can make anything out of this, good for you!
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(In the presence of Pavitra and Abhay Singh,
* Mother recounts a vision she had during the night)
It was just at four o'clock in the morning, and it woke me up. It was exactly like this ... I was apparently in my bathroom, and I had to open the door between the bathroom and Sri Aurobindo's room; the moment I put my hand on the doorknob, I knew with an absolute certainty that destruction was awaiting me behind the door. It had the form or image of those great invaders of India, those who had swooped down upon India and destroyed everything in their wake ... But it was only an impression.
So the door had to be opened and I ... felt and said, 'Lord, may your will be done.' I opened the door and behind it was z2 in the same clothes he wears when he drives, and he was leaning against one of those big tractor tires - or perhaps he was holding it at the same time. I was so dumbfounded that I woke up. It took me a little while to be able to understand what it might mean, and afterwards ... Even now, I still don't know ... What was I? Was I India, or was I the world? ... I don't know. And what did Z represent? ... It was as imperative and clear, as positive and absolute as could be: the certitude that destruction was behind the door, that it was inevitable. And it had the form of those great Tartar or Mongol invaders, those people who came from the North and invaded India, who pillaged everything ... That's what it was like. But what Z was doing there I don't know. What does he represent? ... The first impulse was to tell Abhay Singh, 'Forbid him to drive the tractor.'
I. The disciple who managed the Ashram 'Atelier': mechanical workshop, maintenance garage, automobile service, etc.
2. A young disciple who worked in the Atelier.
(Pavitra:) What was he holding in his hands, Mother?
Huge tires ... He was standing there, like that, with a very majestic air. He was wearing his white outfit, those long pyjamas ...
(Abhay Singh:) Yesterday he drove the station wagon for the visitors.
Does it also have large tires?
(Pavitra:) A little bigger than jeep tires.
No, it came up to here (gesture to the top of the head). It seemed to be a tractor tire, but it did not have the heavy tread that tractor tires have.
(Abhay Singh:) There are tractor tires that have no tread.
Ah! So ... He was standing, and it came up to here (same gesture). So it must have been a tractor tire. What could it represent, he, and the tractor? ... I don't know ... It was not personal, you see - I mean this body. It had nothing to do with that.
(Pavitra:) The industrialization of India?
I don't know.
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Yes, this morning, I think.
Me!
Yes, I saw him.
I am very much struck, I must say. First of all, to put thingsphysically, the first time I saw him, I remained with him for three and a half hours-he didn't stop talking ....
But the extraordinary thing is that usually, when I am withpeople, after half an hour I am exhausted - after three and a half hours (I didn't budge, didn't stop looking at him), I was as fresh as a daisy! And so full of energy that I didn't sleep the whole night! And I spent three and a half hours listening to this man .... Yesterday evening (I was tired, Id had a rather heavy day), I spent only half an hour chatting with him - I was as fresh as a daisy.
I was quite fresh, as I am not after resting .... But Id like to mention one thing: I saw him BEFORE he came to Pondicherry. The day he reached Bombay, I had a sort of vision I didn't under stand: I saw an enormous white horse, huge, but massive, like an enormous plough horse: not beautiful, but with an awesome massive power. A huge white horse. And when I saw him here, I thought, "But here's my white horse!"
A plough animal, you know, not beautiful but awesome.
He's come here with a question-not a mental one .... But I should perhaps tell you the stages of his discovery. As you know, he discovered experimentally on himself what was going on. So he sought to understand: he bought books, went to see so-called "healers." The first people who taught him were "Spiritualists." They told him, "Use a pendulum." He used a pendulum to detect diseases, and it worked very well. Then, after a time, he thought, "But this isn't reality." And then his Pendulum stopped working! Afterwards, he went to see someone else, who told him, "But you
should do magnetic passes." He was taught how to do it, and it worked very well: with his fingers he could feel the organs that were out of harmony (because, for him, the key word is "Har mony" or "disharmony"). Then, after a while, he said to himself, "But this isn't reality either." And nothing worked anymore.
He thought, "But I have nothing left, neither a pendulum nor myhands nor anything ...." And all of a sudden he had a revelation: "You have nothing left because you no longer need anything!" Then he began, and he noticed that when his thought met with someone's thought or call, it was done in a split second. For instance, one day a woman sent him a wire in Paris: she had given birth and had a torn perineum. He got the wire, thought, and said, "She's cured." The next morning he went and saw her: the perineum had healed .... Another extraordinary case: a woman was dying in the fifth month of her pregnancy, dying of menin geal tuberculosis. The hospital was helpless, they brought her home. In reality, she didn't want her child. He went and saw her several times, and one day, she had terrible convulsions and died in his arms. Then, he says, "I had a sort of prayer at the bottom of my heart, I said, 'But this woman hasn't followed the law of love, it's right that she should die, but why should this child in her die? ... '" He had a sort of prayer. And five minutes later, the woman came back to life in his arms. She opened her eyes and said, "I am cured." She was indeed cured, but unable to move anymore. Two weeks later, she gave birth to a child, who was not only normal but viable and full-grown, which means that in those fifteen days, the gestation had accelerated and the child was just as full-grown as a nine-month-old child ....
Yes. Then the woman died the day after giving birth, and thechild is now seventeen, I think .... He told me, "That's how it is: there is NO' power,' it doesn't exist - there is That, the Harmony; everyone has the capacity to call this Harmony, and It acts. And It acts in a second, instantly .... But then, he told me, "Here is my question" (as far as I can express what he said) .... Basically, he is aware of quite an extraordinary Power-though I should say I didn't feel a shadow of ego in this man, there's no trace of
ego .... He read my book, but that didn't teach him things, it only confirmed some experiences .... This man spoke to me for more than three hours, and apart from you and Sri Aurobindo, I have heard no one speak like him. It was a sage who spoke, a living experience that sprang forth, there wasn't one thing he said you wouldn't subscribe to: those "great Forces of Harmony" that must be embodied on earth, brought down on earth ... It was really a sage who spoke, and those were your words, Sri Aurobindo's words.
But the surprising thing is that when he spoke to me, it wasn'this mind that spoke: it was a living experience that sprang forth, that's what was extraordinary! ... He said, "I have the experience of the transformation, the experience of cellular regeneration .... I know from experience that there is intelligence, there is divin ity deep down in the cells - I know all that, but it has to be embodied. Something has to be done." So here's his question ....
He is conscious of this Power, but he says one needs to have the TOTAL vision, the vision of TOTAL Harmony. Because, he says, it's all an equilibrium, a wonderful harmony, and we mustn't cause any disequilibrium, we must obey the Law, follow the Law of Harmony, but it's a TOTAL Law, of course, and we mustn't make any mistake. "I need the total vision," he says. "Take the Ashram: it's a center of light where there is total harmony; then there's a circle around it, Pondicherry, which is already darker ...
" ... and less receptive; so you can't bring the Ashram's law intothat obscurity without causing a disequilibrium; you can only bring part of it, or something that can be adapted to that dark ness. Then there is a third, still darker circle, to which it's still harder to apply the law of total Harmony-so how to find out what one has to do depending on the particular point? How to know the right law, the total law? ..." He says, "I don't want to cause any disequilibrium, I want to obey the Law .....
It's not that I asked, I just thought it might be interesting for himto try and put himself his question to you.
I told him, "Mother doesn't speak." He said, "But of course! It'snot words I need, expressing is useless; what I want is the vibra tion, the experience." He understands silence very well.
Because it would be interesting if in front of you he tried toformulate his question outwardly ... He understands quite well that evolution has reached a point where things must accelerate and those Forces of Harmony must be brought into the world, but basically, he feels such a power in him that he wouldn't want to act arbitrarily: he wouldn't want to "break the equilibrium," but to "follow the Law." And for that, total vision is needed .... He told me, "The miracles Christ worked, for instance (there is no such thing as 'miracles,' by the way), all that I can do, but if I did it, with the means of communication of modern science, it would immediately be known the world over, and something of that sort could strike a 'great blow' to the ordinary mind which only believes in the truths of matter." He asks, "That would be a means of action, but should I do that? ..." His problem is one of action ....
Right now, for three days he has been fasting; he's stopped eating. He said, "I'll go and see Mother like this, without having taken any food." So for three days he has been taking nothing but water ... The wonderful thing is that there isn't an atom of men talization, it's all an experience that springs forth. And all that you've said, all that Sri Aurobindo said, he has experienced ....
He is conscious of the "Moment" in the History of the earth, hefeels all that. So he wants to participate in the Work.
I think he's inspired. Because the first day, when I spent threehours and a half with him, the first hour (he's very slow to get started), it took a long time, he was groping for words, trying to express himself clearly. Later on, I tried to drive him into his experience, and it started flowing. What he said was beautiful, it sprang forth like that, spontaneously. It was really inspired .... And at the same time, so moved, because for the first time in his life he can talk about these things with people who understand him. He told me, "No one understands me - but here, everyone understands me." So it comes out, it springs forth.
(A.R., the healer, enters; Mother gives him a red rose.)
(A.R.:) Thank you ... I come to you as a child thirsting and hungering for Truth, Justice, and the Knowledge of spiritual laws. Please give me this nourishment that is the knowledge of the laws, so I may serve the Divine in the most perfect universal Harmony.
(Satprem to A.R.:) Mother doesn't speak.
(Satprem:) What is the central question that preoccupies you?
(A.R.:) The central question ... The central question for me,with regard to past experiences, is to understand the Law - to
understand it perfectly, not imperfectly, that is, not empirically, so that by fulfilling the conditions of the Law, we may re-create the same phenomena.
(Satprem:) You spoke of a "block" somewhere?
(A.R.:) Yes, exactly, the block is just that .... Ill give an image:when you know a law perfectly, you can't be in breach of the law; but if you know it imperfectly, you risk a fine at any moment.
(Satprem:) Mother, it's the knowledge of the Law that he wouldlike to have, so as not to make any mistake.
(Satprem to A.R.:) What do you call the "law"?
(A.R.:) The Law ... I think that if in deep meditation one realizes union with the Divine according to the right rules, every time you have the same meditation for the same cause, you must certainly obtain the same result.
(A.R.:) That's right.
(A.R.:) Exactly, I fully agree with Mother. But the problem remains in spite of this explanation. The question mark subsists, because, of course, I've had numerous opportunities to experi ment with it - it's something I frequently realize-and yet the results are different, I mean that one doesn't get the result one
might have hoped for, which seems (I say, seems) really normal in the circumstances.
(Satprem to A.R.:) You mean, when you want to cure someone?
(A.R.:) Yes, that's it.
(Satprem to Mother:) Mother, he says that when he wants toheal, for instance, there aren't two systems, there's only one: he goes into a deep, intimate communion with the Divine, and lets That come through ....
(Satprem:) So he wonders why, in certain cases, the result isn't obtained?
(Satprem to A.R.:) Yes, it's not like that. It's a partial consciousness that tells you there must be a result, but in the total Consciousness ...
(A.R.:) I had always taken it like that too, but I wanted a confirmation of it.
(Satprem to Mother:) That's how he had taken it, but he wanteda confirmation. Because, for example, he has the case of a man whom he knows intimately and who has become a paralytic. He put all his heart into curing him, and he says he feels the Forces entering this man, he finds him receptive ...
(Satprem:) He isn't cured. He has even given me the photo of theman, and he'd like to understand why, in this instance, he doesn't get cured.
(Mother looks at the photo)
(A.R.:) Well, in the beginning he didn't, but his faith has been growing.
(A.R.:) Thank you.
(meditation)
(A.R.:) Yes, Id like to ask if you think it's good to carry on with this path of healing?
(A.R.:) Do you think it's a momentary limitation?
(Mother gives a photo
and A.R. leaves)
(Mother starts writing
her note to the healer)
"The time seems opportune for you to make yourlast conquest over illness, and to do that, you need some rest in a solitary place. Everything can easily be arranged. Satprem will explain."
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I believe he even came here to Pondicherry to see you. He hasmade a statement on the radio, and you know, he's a man who carries a lot of weight internationally: when he says some thing, he is listened to all over the world. So on French radio, he made a statement (you know that he was a minister under de Gaulle for a long time), a statement in favor of Bangladesh. He says:
The Indian Express, September 20, 1971
At 69, Malraux offers to fight in the ranks of Bangladesh.He says, "I receive many letters from young people who write: if you form a foreign legion, we are ready to fight for Bangladesh." Malraux admits he is too old to serve in the infantry, but he claims he could serve in a tank . "One cannot seriously help Bengal by merely talking in its favor," he says. "One should go there in person and fight for her." Malraux acknowledged, of course, that India had been created by nonviolence, but in the present case, that kind of tactics is not possible. "You are facing a Viet nam. Either you fight and you will have the whole world on your side, or you don't fight and the cause is lost." "While intellectuals are signing petitions in good faith, the Pakistanis are throwing tanks into the battle. Consequently, the only serious thing is the defense of Bengal. Do it intellectually if you like, but with the sup port of combat."
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(Soon afterwards, about a child from the School who drowned during a picnic organized by the School group of his age.)
But it's nice, too!
(Sujata:) But P. had already swum across the water once, because he wasn't part of the group that had the accident: they called him from the camp, he came and swam through that water, and the accident took place on the way back. The others were on the other side.
Yes, they called him; he had already swum across the water to come and meet them.
(Sujata:) It seems the three boys were calling you (there were four, you know), the three were calling you and the one who drowned was only calling P. to his aid. But the other three were strongly remembering you.
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No, you know how I am, I don't go out.
(Later, about a disciple who is very talkative but full of ironic wit - Bharatidi.)
(Regarding a visit paid by Satprem to Bharatidi, an old French
disciple, at the Vellore hospital where she is to be operated on.
Bharatidi, a member of France's Far East College, is well
known for her sparkling wit and
liveliness and her biting irony.)
Yes, Mother. She is fine, this Bharatidi, what force she has! And what sense of humor - she is really a queen.
There's a great nobleness in that woman.
Yes, tears came to her eyes.
Tomorrow morning.
It's a tumor, which may be cancerous or a simple tumor.
They say that if they don't operate, it will go from bad to worse.
Over seventy, I think. They're preparing her with blood trans fusions. She's physically very weak, emaciated. But she has that energy....
No.... But it's heartening to see a human being with such dignity ...
... and recounting with humor the visit of missionaries and sisterstrying to convert her (because it's a Protestant hospital)....
So there are bishops, nuns, and once they came into her roomto try and convert her. She tells the story with such humor: "I am not afraid of death, I know we are born more than once!" So the others have nothing left to say.
(A letter from Mother to Bharatidi written about 1963, at a time
when Mother was not receiving any disciple, except sometimes
people about to marry. Bharatidi, then seventy-three, had
written to Mother to ask her if she should marry
to be entitled to see her....)
With all my tenderness
Signed: Mother
When I said goodbye to her, she had magnificent eyes. Shelooked at me ... luminous eyes, with such force, such beauty.
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A letter from Sri Aurobindo to his younger brother Barin.
April 7, 1920
Your Sejda, [[Sejda: Elder brother. ]] Sri Aurobindo
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It's a pity nothing was taken before.
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(Two Americans have brought Mother photos of a former disciple who left for the United States:)
(Mother looks at the photos)
(Then she reads the letter that accompanies the photos)
"... Z and I met with him a few times. Since I saw in him a devilish evil, we have broken contact. I leave this now in your hands."
But still, the fact that he declares himself to be the Ashram's "envoy" is troublesome.
The Americans have so little discernment. They rush headlong at anything.
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(Letter from Sri Aurobindo to C.R. Das,his lawyer in the Alipore bomb case.)
18 November 1922
Yours, Aurobindo
On Himself, XXVI.436
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Never. [[This is in fact incorrect. Satprem remembers occasions when, while playing in his room as a child, he saw his body quietly asleep in bed - only to rush back into it. ]]
But it's an incapacity, all the same, isn't it?
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(Then Satprem reads a passage relating to the "subtle physical " and exteriorization; among other things, he cites the experience of D., who, when he exteriorized for the first time, was unable to get back into his body because he tried to reenter through the legs! Here is the story: "I was lying on my chaise longue in concentration when all at once I found myself in my friend Z's house. He and several others were playing music. I could see everything very clearly, even more clearly than in the physical, and I moved around very quickly, unimpeded. I stayed there watching for a while, and even tried to attract their attention, but they were unaware of me. Then suddenly something pulled me, a sort of instinct: 'I must go back.' I felt pain in my throat. I remember that to get out of their room, which was all closed except for one small opening high up, my form seemed to vaporize (because I still had a form, though unlike our material one - more luminous, less opaque), and I went out like smoke through the open window. Then I found myself back in my room, next to my body, and I saw that my head was twisted and rigid against the cushion, and I was having trouble breathing. I wanted to get into my body: impossible. So I became afraid. I entered through the legs, and when I reached the knees I seemed to bounce back out; two, three times like that: the consciousness rose and then bounced back out like a spring. 'If I could only tip over this stool,' I thought (there was a small stool under my feet), 'the noise would wake me up!' But nothing doing. And I was breathing more and more heavily. I was terribly afraid. Suddenly I remembered Mother and cried out, 'Mother! Mother!' and found myself back in my body, awake, with a stiff neck.")
(Mother laughs and laughs.)
D. himself told me this story.
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(July 29, 1967)
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David, the young Italian who made a documentary on Sri Aurobindo, now wants to film "The Gold Washer." But he wants to do it in the true spirit, with your help, showing how it inevitably leads to Sri Aurobindo and you.
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No, aside from one or two exceptions, I refuse to see anybody. Idon't know, but I've found that now it is better for me to remain quiet.
The only person I've seen is E.
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(Mother listens to a few pieces of pop music brought to her by François B., an enthusiastic visitor)
(Mother listens to a few pieces of pop music brought to her by
François B., an enthusiastic visitor)
(François B.:) Mother, a few groups have pushed much farther on. This one [the Rolling Stones] is the most vital of all the groups. But there are others, more open, less rough. They are really ready to recognize you, but they don't know.
(F.B.:) A lot more!
("music")
(F.B.:) I'd like to have you hear something else, another kind. Butfrom the same generation. Something gentler.
(F.B.:) Another piece, if you like?
(F.B.:) There's a group which sings something rather humorous,and at the end they say, "0 Mother, tell me more, tell me more ... ... It's fantastic! Because the inspiration is so pure, and they really ask, "0 Mother, tell me more ... ...
And these are "Commercial" things, I mean they're there in thepublic .... Do you think the time has come to contact them?
(Mother has not heard the question)
(F.B.:) Can we help them?
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There is a note from G., if you'd like me to read it.... He says:
"Mother,
"My health problem [serious heart attacks] has led me toreveal many hidden elements in the body, like Mother's love, grace, and Mother herself with me.... My body seems no more at the mercy of old beliefs. Thus, my confidence in the body is increasing more and more day by day, and I feel and see clearly that the body can throw away any kind of diffi culty in it by coming in the contact with Mother's love and grace. One day, I asked Mother from within not to allow more such attacks which bring me almost to a condition of collapse every now and then and, Mother, it never came afterwards since about ten days!..." [[ Original English. ]]
(Mother remains silent)
Yes, he told me he was very struck to discover practically that"laws" don't hold up, so-called laws disappear.
(Satprem reads to Mother a letter from G.,
which ends with the following question.)
Yes, at the end he says: "Mother, what sort of change may takeshape in life if one becomes just Thy Will but nothing else?"
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You speak of exteriorization - couldn't you show me a simple way of learning to do it?
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(Mother gives "Transformation" flowers and slips one into her
buttonhole, then mentions again the translation of the
introduction of On the Way to Supermanhood.)
Shall I ask him for you?
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"The world is Preparing for a big change.Will you help?"
Was she receptive?
"Let India work for the future and take the lead.Thus she will recover her true place in the world."
"Since long it was the habit to govern throughdivision and opposition.
"The time has come to govern through union,mutual understanding and collaboration."
"To choose a collaborator, the value of the man ismore important than the party to which he belongs."
"The greatness of a country does not depend on the victory of a party, but on the union of all the parties."
(Mother points to another note)
Oh, really?
Revered Mother, Through these critical months I have thought constantlyof you. I can find no words with which to express my gratitude for your support. Your blessings are a great source of strength. Our difficulties are not over....
... The American administration is most upset that itscalculations were so completely wrong, and they will use their power to try to humble us and specially to create division between Bangla Desh and ourselves. I think our nation has taken a step towards maturity. Yet there are many who look only to today. If India is to be great we must improve the quality of the minds of our people. I know that this is your desire. In my humble way I am trying to do what I can.
With respectful regards, Yours sincerely,
To Indira
With blessings. India must be proud of your leadership. Let the country take its true place in the world for showing the way towards the supreme Truth.
with love
"India shall take her true place in the world only when she will become integrally the messenger of the Divine Life." [[Original English. ]]
What was the occasion?
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It's about young I.
It's a note on Amenhotep: "Amenhotep III is the builder of Thebes and Luxor.... His palace, south of Thebes, was built with sun-dried bricks covered with painted stucco. His wife, Taia, seems to have come from a modest family, but was showered with honours by him and their son. The son succeeded his father under the name of Amenhotep IV. He was a religious reformer who replaced the cult of Ammon with that of Aton (the Sun). He took the name of Akhenaton." [Encyclopedia Britannica] That's the one. He's a tough little fellow, dear me! They have a hard time with him. I didn't tell his mother. When they are here, everything is fine. But as soon as they go to Bombay, where the husband's family is, he falls ill, he becomes absolutely unbearable, he is impossible - here, he is controlled. And strangely enough, they put in his bedroom friezes of simplified animals (I saw some photos, they look very much like Egyptian paintings), and he is very happy there, very calm. It's amusing. And I wasn't thinking of anything at all; I was looking at that child (who is obviously a conscious and very self-assured being), I looked at him and it amused me; then I put it out of my mind. And later on, I had that vision and I knew it was he - I saw him. "Such is the will of Amenhotep."
showered with honours by him and their son. The son succeeded his father under the name of Amenhotep IV. He was a religious reformer who replaced the cult of Ammon with that of Aton (the Sun). He took the name of Akhenaton." [Encyclopedia Britannica]
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But this "trigger" you mention, Kennedy's death, will it precipitate things in the sense of a "shake-up"?
(On Mother's table lies an issue of "The Illustrated Weekly" showing a large photo of President Kennedy with folded hands. This is the second anniversary of his death, November 22, 1963.)
He was Catholic, I think.
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(Satprem presents to Mother the manuscript of The Synthesis of Yoga before sending it to a new publisher in France:)
I pray that there may be no difficulties with J.H. and the formerpublisher ...
Did J.H. have a sort of free hand to do all he wanted?
I think we should try, because we must free ourselves from thishold. For the moment, anything published in France from Sr i Aurobindo and you is in their grip.
I think that J.H. is pressuring us, but there's no such thing as this monopoly on an author!
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Yes, he never understood why Sri Aurobindo did not resume his political life.
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(Then another note she had had read to K.K. Birla, one of India's foremost industrialists.)
"Truth is within men's reach, but they care nothing about Truth."
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Mridu.
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Have you read Sri Aurobindo's last letters on China? [[See Addendum. ]]
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But how can it be harmonious!
Yes, but she isn't like that.
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Vincent de Paul.
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(Another sign of the times. This conversation concerns one of
the Ashram presses which was, despite Mother's instructions,
about to sell fraudulently a cheaper edition of "Superman
hood" in Europe and Canada, while the rights to the book
were reserved. This cheaper edition was exclusively intended
for India. Satprem protests in particular against the jacket and
presentation of the book, which are patently designed to make
as much money as possible at a minimum cost.
Mother's face is swollen, her eyes too.)
They're selling books the way you'd sell margarine or peanuts.
No, Mother. If it's for the presentation, people won't see thedifference.
I can speak to him, but it would be good if you tell him also.
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Yes, a voice said to him ...
He refused!
Out of fear or skepticism?
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There is a problem I'd like to put to you.
A practical problem, not a yogic one! It's about Italy, N. and the publication of the book on Sri Aurobindo ["The Adventure of Consciousness"]. N. translated it and gave it to his friend S. to look after the publication in Italy. S. saw a publisher, who asked to read the book in French and found it interesting. And then, I don't know whether on the publisher's suggestion or S.'s, they are asking if it wouldn't be better to publish first a book by Sri Aurobindo like, for instance, "The Guide to Yoga."
Yes, you know, fragments of letters were used to make "The Bases of Yoga" and so on, and they gathered it all under the title "The Guide to Yoga."
That's right.
I find it rather limited.
He told me he had asked you.
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(Concerning the last conversation where Mother spoke of the essential Sound, or the 'Word' of the Vedic Rishis.)
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(Later, concerning the disciple's very traditionalist guru who falls ill each time he comes to the Ashram:)
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(Then Mother comments on the visit Pandit Nehru paid to her two days earlier, on June 13:)
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But is there a way for you to contact those people in Delhi andhave them told what you want?
No, he's not the man. He doesn't strike one as being pure and straight. He isn't a straight man.
A man like P.?
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I have also reread A.P.'s 'Evening Talks.'
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page 189-90 - Mother's Agenda , volume 1 , 30th Aug. - 1958
(Pavitra hands Mother a new French dictionary,
the 'All-in-One ')
(Pavitra:) Yes, Mother; in this dictionary each verb is shown - the category it is in, how it is conjugated ...
... Take 'choyer' [coddle, pamper], for example ... (Pavitra shows Mother), it's conjugated like 'aboyer' [snarl, bark].
(Pavitra:) It has everything - how to play bridge, how to play tennis, the art of carving a chicken ...
(After Pavitra leaves)
page 407 - Mother's Agenda , volume 1 , 10th Aug. - 1960
(Mother first reads out the French version of her note)
(Sujata:) Why is Pavitra in such poor condition?
(Sujata:) When I see him in the morning, it's terrible. It takes him a long time before he's able to move, and he is in a lot of pain.
Have you seen him? I am told he looks very good.
Oh, Yes!
(Sujata:) I see him almost every night.
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Other physical planets?
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(Following a telegram from PL. announcing that he has been "excluded from the retinue" accompanying the Pope to the Geneva assembly.)
Not yet. He simply says he has been 'excluded.
(Then Mother speaks of the new Pope, Paul VI, who was elected a few days earlier:)
Very well.
Investiture?
(This conversation took place a few days after the new Pope, Paul VI, was enthroned. Mother had asked Satprem to erase the recording, except for a few fragments, but he thought it fit to retain at least its integral transcription.)
You should be the one to say!
Vital power, you mean, or spiritual?
I get a sense of hardness.
But is his power of organization a power for the "good," if I may say so, or what?
It's strange, I got a sense of repulsion.
No, but under the cover of a "synthesis" or a broadening of the doctrine, they may very well be trying to expand further the power of Catholicism over the world.
It's the Communion.
Exactly.
The Pope's conversion! No!
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There's a problem. It's about P.L. - do you know who he is?[[A visitor who has been staying in the Ashram for some time. ]]
He is one of the dignitaries of the Roman Curia.
He's going to be appointed bishop in [such and such a country].
So there's a problem. He is an important person, and he wantsto leave everything - this whole Christianity he rejects, he no longer wants it. He wants to leave his Church, his episcopate, everything, and remain here. He has "found" something here.
Yes, and he wants to leave everything. But it's a problem,because the slightest thing may cause scandals in Italy. The Communists are always ready to seize on the least opportunity: a priest who gives up the frock ... Not only a priest, but an apprentice bishop of the Roman Curia. So he would like it to take place without scandals. But how should he go about it?
He is very good. He has something. He has experiences with SriAurobindo, he sees Sri Aurobindo. But there too, there's a pro blem. First, he needs your force: he's a man without much force vitally and physically. When he goes out of his body ... The other day, he saw Sri Aurobindo at the Samadhi, and at the same time his body was being devoured by wild beasts and thrown out of his bed. He is attacked, he needs to be protected. Vitally and physically, he is weak. So you understand, if he goes back to Rome, those people won't let him go without a battle.... He'd like to ask you how he should proceed?
Yes, and he is employed in Rome's Court, he looks after divorcecases. So on the one hand he needs your force to carry out this operation - it really is an operation - and then, what's the way to avoid a scandal? He told me he is the right-hand man of Cardinal T. [[Cardinal Tisserant, who died in 1972. ]]: "Should I use my influence with Cardinal T. to be given a sort of mission outside Rome, in Africa or in India, gradually distancing myself from Rome, keeping out of the limelight, and then disappearing? Or should I directly speak to the Pope and tell him clearly all that's going on?..." Because you know that when the Pope came to Bombay, P.L. was with him in the plane....
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(Then Satprem prepares to read a new chapter of
Supermanhood: "The Bifurcation.")
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"Is the will to progress sufficient to prevent thedeterioration that stems from time? How can the physical being prevent this deterioration?"
The other question: "How does the central Willand Light, which is nonmaterial, act on the gross matter of the cells?"
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There was a kind of hole. He must have fallen down and hit a rock.
Yes, Mother, in front of the Distillery they are piling up tons of rocks.
It's not clear, because he was found on the sand, a little farther. But the face had been hit.
But then, I should tell you that some people are telling verystupid stories on Rishabhchand's departure.
Well, they say he committed suicide.
(Concerning a disciple who wanted to finish
"The Life of Sri Aurobindo" left incomplete
by Rishabhchand.)
He stopped where Sri Aurobindo comes to Pondicherry [in 1910].
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It seems that a Tamil yogi [Swami Ramalingam] of this region,who lived around 1850, had experiences, which he described in a poem and appear rather connected.... Experiences of the trans formation of the skeleton, bones, etc. It's a Tamilian who sent me this letter, asking me to put the question to you.
"The Mother may throw light on the nature and extentof the transformation the Swami had in the last part of his life. The Swami often declared affirming the transformation and deathlessness of his body by the power of what he calls 'Arut Perum Joti,' the infinite or vast Grace-Light of the Divine. He also made the forecast and promise around the year 1870, that the supreme Divine would come soon to the earth for establishing his direct rule of Grace-Light (which the Swami also called as the Truth-Light) when a new race of people would arise defying disease, ageing and death...." [[Original English. ]]
Then here is the text of this sage, translated from the Tamil:
Extract from "Joti Agaval" (Swami Ramalingam's poem, verses 725-740)
"O my unique Love which sprang from my heart and filledit so much that it made my life blossom. O my Lord of unique Love who has given himself to me wholly and by the Grace-Light has transmuted me. My Love that has entered and unified with me in my heart, so as to transform my body into a golden body. The skin has become supple, the influx of the nervous current all over the body is vibrating, with pauses in between; the bones have become pliable and plastic in their nature; the soft muscles have become truly loosened; the blood has become condensed within; the
semen has become concentrated into a single drop and con fined in the chest; the petals of the brain [[In traditional Indian experience, the centers of consciousness or chakras are compared to lotuses whose petals open or close. ]] have blossomed or expanded; amrita [nectar of immortality] is welling up into springs all over the body and filling it up; the luminous forehead perspires; the luminous face brightens up; the breath full of peace becomes cool and refreshing; the inner smile beams up; the hair stands on end; tears of joy flow down towards the feet; the mouth vibrates into the passion ate calling [of the Divine]; the ear tubes ring with the sense of musically humming sound; the body has become cool; the soft chest moves; the hands join [as in prayer]; the legs revolve or spin round; the mind melts sweetly, the intelli gence becomes full of light; the will becomes full of joy and harmony; the individuality has enlarged itself everywhere; the heart has blossomed into the universality of feeling so as to be felt by the world outwardly; the whole knowledge- body has become blissful; even the spiritual egoism of the senses has gone away; the senses (tattva) have been replaced wholly by the truth (sattva), the truth-principle or truth- substance which alone prevails now uniquely; attachment to objects of the senses and to things of the world has dissolved away, and only the aspiration and will towards the illimitable Grace grows and intensifies." [[This translation of the original Tamil text into English (with minor editing here) probably gives only a very rough idea of the experience. ]]
It seems it happened the him towards the end of his life, and Ithink it must have lasted for a few years. ...He said he would "return." [["The Swami dematerialized his body in January or February 1874, leaving a promise that he would return at the time of the God of the vast Grace-Light." ]]
Yes, he was born in 1823 and died in 1874.
He says that the bones have become supple.... "The body hasbecome cool; the soft chest moves; the hands join as in prayer; the legs revolve or spin round...." Which means, I suppose, that the legs can move in every direction, since the bones have become "pliable."
But you often wondered about the skeleton, in fact, you askedhow it could change.
Here, he says it becomes plastic, supple.
Through this "condensation" ...Is it because of this condensa tion of the blood he mentions?
I don't know what that condensation of the blood is.... But thereis one thing I haven't heard you mention and which Sri Auro bindo often refers to (in The Supramental Manifestation, for instance), that's the transformation of organs through the chakras, through the energy of the centers of consciousness. You very rarely mention the chakras or the role of the chakras.... Couldn't one conceive that these centers of energy may provide the body with a framework strong enough for it to stand?
The vast "Grace-Light."
"The translation of Swami Ramalingam's experiences wasread out to Mother, and she does not doubt their authentic ity; she particularly liked the manner in which the Swami called that light 'Grace-Light,' and she said it corresponds to her own experience. She remarked that over the ages, and even now, it is quite likely that a number of individuals, known or unknown, have had similar experiences. The only difference is that at present, instead of an individual possi bility, there is a collective possibility - that is precisely Sri Aurobindo's and Mothers work: to establish, as a terrestrial fact and a possibility for everyone, the supramental con sciousness or 'Grace-Light' as Swami Ramalingam called it."
But from what you said, I understood that this "Grace-Light"was the supramental light.
"Did you really mean that Ramalingam was in DIRECTcontact with the Supramental?...
No, around 1850. He died two years after Sri Aurobindo's birth,and he announced the coming of an incarnation of the Divine and a new race that would "defy death, ageing" and so on - one year before Sri Aurobindo's birth.
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(A little later, regarding the music composed by Sunil on the theme of "The Hour of God":)
(This conversation took place in the music room. Mother had asked Sunil, the musician disciple, and Sujata to come.)
(Sujata:) Satprem would very much like to learn to play some instrument, Mother, you know. (Satprem:) But not the harmonica!
(Sunil:) What you are going to play now I'll keep.
(music)
(Mother starts playing the organ again)
(Sunil:) What you have just played was very lovely.
(About the music composed by Sunil for January 1, 1965:)
It's odd, all that music of the past, European music, which I knew very well and admired, it seems to me almost void of substance, while here, there is a contact right up above: you plunge into it instantly.
I like what he does very much.
(After listening to the music composed by Sunil
for the New Year.)
It's very beautiful, very powerful.
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I hope he is going to pull through?
(About a letter from the "doctor," who had gone to the U.S.A. for a brain operation: "The operation was torture for four hours; it is done under local anaesthesia but not effective. They cut and scraped my skull and drilled it without any anaesthesia.... Nursing is not so good, my [nurses] are far better. They have no feeling and do not do things honestly.... Surgeons are also slack...." It may be noted that the doctor was himself a surgeon of repute in Calcutta.)
(This conversation is about Dr. S., who left for the U.S.A. for a brain operation. The operation consists in introducing a needle into the diseased spot and injecting liquid oxygen to destroy the group of affected cells. The first operation took place three months earlier, and the second was scheduled for this month.)
One side is cured.
He will have gone through a terrible experience.
It's strange that, with that kind of attitude, he came here.
That's strange.
(Soon afterwards, about Dr. Sanyal, who has gone to Madras for a brain operation after an unsuccessful operation in America.)
When are they going to operate?
(Mother hands V.'s letter [[Original English. ]] to Satprem)
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(Satprem complains of his difficulties in writing the book on Sri Aurobindo. He says in particular that he has a feeling of being 'blocked')
If you could just give me a hint....
(Mother then asks Satprem various questions about his japa, and, after a very long silence during which she seems to be elsewhere or "looking" into the distance, continues:)
(Mother looks at Satprem for a long time)
Yes, I felt it.
(About Satprem's mother, who has donated money to the Ashram:)
No, she has given all her goods to her children and there is a part that was supposed to be for me, but it's hers, so it's just as well in your hands. She says she is "ventilating herself."
(We venture to publish here a text written by Satprem on June
24, 1967, despite its daring or extreme predictions, for it may
hold a grain of truth that time will reveal, and above all
because it is obviously influenced by Mother's vision. The
following is therefore not so much an exercise in prediction
as food for thought.)
THE END OF THE ASURA
Satprem24 June 1967
Yes.... For some time now I've been very much feeling your presence.
Yes, I really feel it's the only solution.
(long smiling silence
while holding Satprem's hands)
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Yes, I would certainly like to....
I understand.
(Sujata's vision the night of April 1)
One Thousand Years
(Mother sees Sujata)
page 175 - Mother's Agenda , volume 13 , 4th May - 1972-1973
(Mother sees Sujata. On this day, thirty-four years before,
Sujata decided to stay with Mother. She was twelve and a half
years old, the youngest disciple in the Ashram. She had made
her first visit to Pondicherry when she was nine.
She gives Mother a spray of "Service" flowers.
This will be the last May 29th.)
It's from your tree.
(Mother holds the flowers for a long time,
then gives them back to Sujata)
(Mother sees Sujata, who has just lost her eldest brother, and
she comforts her. This fragment of conversation
has been noted from memory.)
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S.
Of course, but there is a "tone" in it....
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Assassinated?
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It wouldn't have the same effect!
Ah, no!
"In the world, people generally classify themselves as materialists who believe in nothing but matter, or as spiritualists who reject matter in order to lean on the spirit alone.
"Sri Aurobindo is neither a materialist nor a spiritualist. He admits both, but wants a matter transformed, divinized by the spirit, capable of expressing the truth instead of constantly denying it."
Sweet Mother,
What is the idea behind this sentence from the "Adven ture": "Unfortunately, the West has too much intelligence to have much clear vision to translate outwardly, while India, too full within, is not demanding enough to match what she lives with what she sees"?
(Mother smiles and
dictates straight off)
It means that in the West (especially in France), the intellectual development has prevailed over the spiritual development and the contact with higher regions, while in India, the inner knowledge has remained more developed than the intellectual field.
The West expresses more than it really knows.
India knows more than it really can express.
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(Extract from a letter of Sri Aurobindo concerning the invasion of South Korea on June 15, 1950.)
June 28,1950
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Last time, we spoke about that book.... Would you like me toread it?
It's a first draft.
Yes, yes, but I mean, all that I've written, I really feel as if I were writing automatically.
So you know, it's really a ... for me it's something of an anguishto write this book. Not only I don't know what's going to come when I write a chapter, I don't know what's going to come when I write a paragraph, and when I start a sentence I don't know how I am going to end it.
But I'm in anguish!
I have dedicated the book "At the feet of the Truth."
It's entitled "On the Way to Supermanhood - Essay of Experimental Evolution." For the introduction, I start with a quotation from Sri Aurobindo. That quotation is:
"Secrets are simple, because the truth is simple........ And whatlooked like a human impossibility will become child's play."
(Mother remains thoughtful)
I've written nine chapters in all.
In English, I don't know.... There's T, who translated my first book.
In Italian, there's N.
What about the German?
We should reach the big magazines.
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Albano, Regina Apostolorum, 13 January 1972
To His Excellency Msgr. A.R.
Archbishop of Pondicherry
Venerable Lord,
As Your Excellency knows, I have directed the Holy Congre gation for the Eastern Church for nearly twenty-five years, and one of my most cherished memories is the journey I made to your beloved country in 1953. I have always held a keen interest in your great nation, but even more so after I visited it. It was thus with a very special pleasure that I accompanied His Holiness Pope Paul VI to the International Eucharistic Con gress in Bombay.
On that occasion, the Holy Father expressed the wish tocome in contact with representatives of your country's main religious movements, and I know, Excellency, that he was given a biography of Sri Aurobindo.
It is in fact in connection with the Sri Aurobindo Ashram inPondicherry that I am taking the liberty of writing Your Excellency. I am sure you are aware of the reputation it has earned beyond India's borders; I have been following its work and achievements for years. Recently, I was told of the difficul ties encountered by those in charge of the Ashram in regard to
the proposed creation of a university - a project expressly favored by the Indian Government; some Catholic students, in conjunction with a few priests, are displaying a strong opposi tion to this project.
I therefore request Your Excellency kindly to use hisauthority to avoid any incident that, at all events, would be highly detrimental to the harmony that His Holiness Pope Paul VI so much desires, in accord with the rules laid down by the Ecumenical Council Vatican II.
With gratitude, I remain, Venerable Lord, respectfully and faithfully yours,
With gratitude, I remain, Venerable Lord,
respectfully and faithfully yours,
Signed: Eugene Card. Tisserand
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Is it possible?!
But it must take a formidable power!
But truly, EVERYTHING was changed at that moment: something was achieved. It was the perception of Power - the Power that comes from Love (what Love is to the Supreme Consciousness, which has nothing to do with what we usually mean by the word 'love'). And it was ... it was simple! None of those complications resulting from thought, intellect, understanding - all that was gone, all gone. A formidable Power! And it made me understand one thing, that the state I had been put in (by the Lord of Yoga, in fact) was for obtaining the particular power that comes through an identity with all material things, a power possessed by certain persons - not always yogis, certain mediums, for instance. I saw it with Madame Theon: she would will a thing to come to her instead of going to the thing herself; instead of going to get her sandals when she wanted them, she made the sandals come to her. She did this through a capacity to radiate her matter - she exercised a will over her matter - her central will acted upon matter anywhere, since she WAS THERE. With her, then, I saw this power in a methodical, organized way, not as something accidental or spasmodic (as it is with mediums), but as an organization of Matter. And so ... I began to understand: 'With this comes the power to put each thing in its place!'... provided one is universal enough.
I had forgotten the whole story, because I now live constantly in the Becoming. But it came back to me.
And all the disbelief in the world can't contradict that piece of evidence.
The note itself was stolen from me while I was moving to a new house.
Two things were stolen: that note and the mantra of life (I have told you about that). And I have a suspicion that it was an occult theft, not an ordinary one, because no one even suspected the value of those papers - for most people they had no interest at all.
page 44 - Mother's Agenda, volume 3, 15th Jan. - 1962
(Satprem continues the reading:)
Yes, it is: "The Little Tlemcenian's Press."
Schuré?
You once mentioned someone called Barley....
(Mother leafs through the pages, laughing as she reads:)
It all seems a bit flimsy....
(Unenthusiastically.) Yes....
(Mother starts leafing through the "Axioms" again)
Why is that? What's the idea?
???
All those things put so neatly into paragraphs always look a bit flimsy and dogmatic.
The story of the earthly paradise?
True, it could be the intermediary. But the other thing would really mean a different degree of energy - the absorption of a dif ferent degree of energy. As you used to do in the past when you breathed the smell of flowers, for instance, or as Madame Theon used to do when she put a fruit (I forget which) on her chest.
But I often thought it should be possible for you to feed on air.
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59 - One of the greatest comforts of religion is that you can get hold of God sometimes and give him a satisfactory beating. People mock at the folly of savages who beat their gods when their prayers are not answered; but it is the mockers who are the fools and the savages.
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Yes, you say, "I wondered how they retrieved the names of the pharaohs and gods." Then you ask, "Is the Egyptians' language contemporary with the most ancient Sanskrit, or still more ancient?... Or is there another human language older than the oldest Sanskrit?" You also ask, "Is this hieroglyphic Egyptian language akin to the Chaldean line or the Aryan line?"
Had you heard sounds or what?
(After a silence) Listen, I'll give you an example. Some two years ago, I had a vision about U.'s son. She had brought him to me (he was almost one) and I had just seen him there [in the music room]. He struck me as someone I knew very well, but I didn't know who. Then, the same day in the afternoon, I had a vision. A vision of ancient Egypt, in which I was someone, the high priestess or I don't know who. (Because you don't say to yourself, "I am so and so"! The identification is total, there is no objectification, so I don't know.) I was inside a wonderful monument, immense, so high! But it was completely bare: there was nothing, except in one place where there were magnificent paintings. That's where I recognized the paintings of ancient Egypt. I was coming out of my apartments and entering a sort of large hall: there was a kind of gutter running on the ground all along the walls to collect water. And I saw the child playing in it, half-naked. I was very shocked, I said, "What! This is disgusting!" (But the feelings, ideas and so on were all translated into French in my consciousness.) The tutor came, I had him called. I scolded him. I heard sounds - well, I don't know what I said, I don't remember those sounds. I heard the sounds I uttered, I knew what they meant, but the translation was in French, and I didn't keep a memory of the sounds. I spoke to him, telling him, "What! You let this child play in that?" And he answered me (I woke up with his answer), saying (I didn't hear the first words, but to my thought it was), "Such is the will of Amenhotep." I heard "Amenhotep," I remembered it. So I knew the child was Amenhotep.[[Mother had recounted this vision before: See Agenda VI of June 5, 1965, and Agenda IV of June 3, 1963. ]]
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This happens in sleep?
I met V., he had a vision two or three days ago. He saw a peacock coming down, and on the peacock someone was sitting, erect, who wasn't Kali but like Kali (the naked Kali) and was holding in her hand the severed head of a man.
No, I asked him if it was a Western head, or a Chinese one, anyway what it was. He told me it rather looked like an Asiatic head.
He told me, "I felt it was the sign of a catastrophe or a war."
Yes, he said, "Afterwards, there was peace."
On the peacock. It wasn't Kali, but like Kali, and naked.
V. has again seen something. Something unexpected. Everyevening, he comes to meditate at the Samadhi, and there he has never seen anything in his whole life: for years there has just been Sri Aurobindo, that's all, never anything else. The other day he came, and all of a sudden he had a vision: he saw Kali coming out of the Samadhi from the spot where Sri Aurobindo's head is - an all-blue Kali, covered with gold ornaments.
Some four or five days ago.
What surprised him was that instead of being naked, she was covered with gold.
What surprised him was that she was covered with gold instead of being naked.
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"Deep gratitude for blessing. I am alwaysat thy service."
V. V. Giri
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(No sooner had Mother finished telling this story than, by acurious 'coincidence,' someone brought her a portrait drawn by P.K., one of the Ashram artists. Several days earlier, at about two in the morning during an uncommonly violent lightning storm, P.K. had suddenly SEEN amidst the flashes of lightning in the sky a rather terrible, demoniacal head in front of his very eyes. Having nothing else available, he hastily drew his vision in chalk on a schoolchild's slate, which is the portrait Mother speaks of here:)
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page 37 - Mother's Agenda , volume 2 , jan 22, 1961
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(Regarding the ego and the ancient religious initiations which taught: 'You are That' or 'You are the All.)
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What does the serpent represent physically? What does it embody in the material world?
I don't mean symbolically, but physically, materially: the animal itself.
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(Extract from the 'Cosmic Review' of 1906)
A VISION
(of Mother's)
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And this [the Sanskrit letter] is HRIM.
(Mother remains concentrated)
(XI702)
(Mother pores over the diagram for a long time. It should be noted that the figures of the diagram must be read and written in a particular order to have their full power.)
(Mother starts humming the music or the vibration which has come to her and corresponds to the diagram and the birth of Mahalakshmi's consciousness in Matter.)
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Your signature takes wing!
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"When you stand in the light of the SupremeConsciousness you must not make a shadow."
"To be able to receive the new consciousness without deforming it ...
" ... One must be able to stand in the light ofthe Supreme Consciousness without casting a shadow."
Did it envelop you or ...?
"To people of ill-will"
"The harm you have caused willfully always comes back to you in one form or another.(said by the S.M. consciousness)"
(said by the S.M. consciousness)"
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And part of 'The Secret of the Veda,' as well as two other things because they contain many of Sri Aurobindo's letters: I re-read Z's book on Sri Aurobindo, since there are many letters in it, and....
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I'm tempted to ask one question.... Once events are already prepared in the subtle physical and one sees them, is it too late to alter their course? Can one still act?
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If I had been a teacher, my objection to this decision would notat all have been from the teachers' point of view, but from the students' because I remember my studies, and had you not been obliged every three or six months to review what was learned in school, well, you know, you'd have just let it slip away.
But it's a sort of discipline that makes you review things.
As regards the teachers' point of view, I certainly agree entirely ...
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