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Mother’s Agenda 1969 Vol. 10 of Agenda 549 pages 1998 Edition   Satprem
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Mother has found the 'new consciousness': 'these cells, other cells, it was life and consciousness everywhere, all bodies were this body!' SALVATION is PHYSICAL.

Mother’s Agenda 1969

The Mother symbol
The Mother

Now Mother has found the "passage", what she calls "the new consciousness," the one capable of opening up a new world to us, just as the first breaking of the watery mirror by an amphibian opened up a new air to us: "I don't know what is happening, there's a state of intense vibration, like waves of lightning rapidity, so rapid that they see motionless. And then I go off to America, to Europe.... This body has never been so happy: these cells, other cells, it was life everywhere, consciousness everywhere, all bodies were this body!...." And all our physiological misery vanishes by the same token: "There is a sort of dilation of the cells, the sense of boundaries lessons, fades away, and the pains vanish physically." And it isn't "another world," it is this earth, our earth but lived otherwise: "As if we had entered an unreal falsehood, and everything disappears once you get out of it - it simply does not exist! And all the artificial means of getting out of it, including Nirvana, are worthless. SALVATION IS PHYSICAL! It is here, right here. All the rest, death included, really becomes a falsehood - there is no such thing as "disappearing", no "life vs death"!...." And as she breaks through the walls of our bowl, the whole world is in revolt - including Mother's entourage - as if it were under the pressure of a new air: "A considerable number of desires for it to die [Mother's body]; everywhere, they are everywhere!.... The whole gamut of feelings around me, from anxiety, eagerness for it to be over quickly, to impatient desires: free at last!.... I don't want to be put in a box, the cells are conscious.... What is going to happen? I don't know. It runs contrary to all habits." A new species is quite contrary to the old habits of the world - will the world accept it, or wind up killing it off?

L’Agenda de Mère L’Agenda de Mère 1969 Editor:   Satprem Vol. 10 582 pages 1981 Edition
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The Mother symbol
The Mother

Now Mother has found the "passage", what she calls "the new consciousness," the one capable of opening up a new world to us, just as the first breaking of the watery mirror by an amphibian opened up a new air to us: "I don't know what is happening, there's a state of intense vibration, like waves of lightning rapidity, so rapid that they see motionless. And then I go off to America, to Europe.... This body has never been so happy: these cells, other cells, it was life everywhere, consciousness everywhere, all bodies were this body!...." And all our physiological misery vanishes by the same token: "There is a sort of dilation of the cells, the sense of boundaries lessons, fades away, and the pains vanish physically." And it isn't "another world," it is this earth, our earth but lived otherwise: "As if we had entered an unreal falsehood, and everything disappears once you get out of it - it simply does not exist! And all the artificial means of getting out of it, including Nirvana, are worthless. SALVATION IS PHYSICAL! It is here, right here. All the rest, death included, really becomes a falsehood - there is no such thing as "disappearing", no "life vs death"!...." And as she breaks through the walls of our bowl, the whole world is in revolt - including Mother's entourage - as if it were under the pressure of a new air: "A considerable number of desires for it to die [Mother's body]; everywhere, they are everywhere!.... The whole gamut of feelings around me, from anxiety, eagerness for it to be over quickly, to impatient desires: free at last!.... I don't want to be put in a box, the cells are conscious.... What is going to happen? I don't know. It runs contrary to all habits." A new species is quite contrary to the old habits of the world - will the world accept it, or wind up killing it off?

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Mother's Agenda 1969 Conversations with Satprem

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August 6, 1969

(After studying various matters of printing, Mother abruptly asks:)

I'd like to ask you a material detail: have you enough cheese for one week?!

Yes, yes, Mother.

Are you sure?... Because cheese is good for you. If you want more, there's nothing easier...

(Mother peers at Satprem's face)

Ah, it's yes! (To Sujata) Go and ask for a box.

You think of everything!

You know, I don't "think," but things come like this (gesture as if on a screen). All of a sudden I see, so it must be true, it's not my imagination.

Yet it's not in my consciousness!

Ah, mon petit, I see much more than what you're aware of! (Mother laughs) It's in your subconscient.

Have you some news of P.L.?

No, he is supposed to arrive any day now.

(Sujata comes back with the box) Here! Eat it, cheese is good for you.

If one could be more conscious...

Yes!

But I don't know how to do it!

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(Mother laughs)... Last night, I spent the whole night with Sri Aurobindo somewhere, I don't know where, but there were lots of people. The two of us were alone, but we saw a multitude of people pass by But the peculiar thing is that when I wake up, it doesn't go away! And when I lie down again, it's there, just where I had left it: it goes on. There's no longer a... You know, in dreams, you have a dream, and then (gesture of breaking off to another level), the consciousness you're in suddenly changes, and it's over, you have to make an effort to recapture your dream or the state—but this doesn't budge! It doesn't budge, it's there like this (Mother slips the fingers of one hand between those of the other), all the time: it goes on, whether I concern myself with it or not.

It's rather new.

I no longer feel I am dreaming, you understand: it's an activity I grow conscious of.

But Sri Aurobindo was... it's odd, he looked as if younger. He was happy, and very amused, passing all kinds of remarks—remarks full of humor, you know!—about things and people. I noticed he was... as if brighter, I don't know how to put it.

Last night it was very particular. I no longer have the impression of dreaming, no longer at all. It no longer has anything to do with a dream: it's an activity that goes on and on. If I remain very tranquil, like that, it goes on.

(long silence)

In the end, it's all a question of consciousness.

The body is growing INTENSELY conscious of what responds to the true Influence, and what's still the residue of habit and the universal, terrestrial development (general, terrestrial), very conscious. Sometimes, it's... almost painful, you know, that old way of being.

And at certain times, the vision is almost veiled, as though I were seeing through a veil; at other times it's ABSOLUTELY precise. I can't believe it depends on the eyes.

With some people, when they come I see them absolutely precise; with others, I hardly see, hardly perceive where their eyes are, or their mouth.... It must depend on something else.

(Mother goes into a long contemplation lasting till the time when Satprem normally leaves)

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What did you feel just now?

...

Nothing special?

I always feel the Power, there, present.

It was that world I was telling you about... as if it wanted to ENTER into this world (and there is indeed a great power in it), and, I don't know how to explain... as if it wanted to force its way into this world. And it came... (you know, it comes without the least personal will, I am like this [still, silent gesture]), it comes and IMPOSES itself, it settles with such power. And the relationship with things and people and the consciousness works differently It came very strongly, and you were IN it: you weren't outside, you were in it. So I was hoping you had felt something.

It's always the Power that I feel.

It's like that, yes.

But instead of a transformation as we imagine it, won't it be a sort of invasion by this subtle world, which will pierce the veil, the barrier, and will enter, will manifest in the physical world?

It may well be.... It may well be!

Because a few days ago, I read again a text of Sri Aurobindo with quite a different understanding....

Ah, what text?

It was a very "Ordinary" text (I've brought it with me), in "The Riddle of this World."

Ah!

And at the end, he says this, which he said many times but which I understand differently: "His [mental man's] full liberation and enlightenment will come when he crosses the line into the light of a new superconscient existence...." And then he says:

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"But in itself this would change nothing in the creation here, the evasion of a liberated soul from the world makes to that world no difference. But this crossing of the line if turned not only to an ascending but to a descending purpose would mean the transformation of the line from what it now is, a lid, a barrier, into a passage for the higher powers of consciousness of the Being now above it...."

Ooh!... It seems to be that.

Yes! I understood it differently, but one may understand that... this subtle world will break the screen, or the barrier, and will be able to manifest physically!

Yes, that's what seems to want to happen.... Because just now, it was so imperative.

(silence)

The only thing is to know whether the phenomenon will be perceptible only to certain consciousnesses, or perceptible to all?... Just now, for example, I... it wasn't just felt: it's a sort of vision, a sort of... as if the atmosphere had changed; and I asked you precisely because I wanted to know whether I alone had noticed it, or if you were...

But I only feel the Power, always.

It's curious, it's as if... the nature of images were changing, I don't know how to explain.

(silence)

And at the end, he says that if this line, this barrier could be turned into a passage for the higher powers, "... It would mean a new creation on earth, a bringing in of the ultimate powers which would reverse the conditions here."1

Yes, it's obviously that. It's obviously that.

But until now, all that was understood as vague phenomena of consciousness up above, but if it's a manifestation of the...

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Ah, no, its HERE.

Yes.

But that's it: it's something that PRESSES to be manifested. I told you, at night I felt that. And then you wake up and its THERE, it hasn't budged; you don't MOVE from one world into the other: the two consciousnesses are together (Mother slips the fingers of her right hand between those of her left hand). The ordinary consciousness seems artificial, and it's "dominating"—but it's NOT truer, it's less true. Last night, it was very, very clear.

It makes for wonderful nights, mon petit! You don't sleep, yet you are much more rested than if you slept.

But the ordinary consciousness is becoming a bit cumbersome, a bit painful, physically so.

Oh, it's interesting, I think we've caught the tail of something!

Yes, yes, it feels like that!

We'll see! (Mother laughs)









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