Shyam Sundar received a special grace of corresponding with The Mother during the period 1967-1970 when She had stopped correspondence with almost all disciples
The Mother : correspondence
THEME/S
I think that always, at every moment, someone or other is calling You and You answer. Doesn't this disturb Your sleep or rest ?
Day and night the calls come in hundreds — but the Consciousness is always alert and it answers. One is limited only materially by time and space.
3.1.1968
How is it that ordinarily, the richer a man is {materially), the more dishonest he is?
It is because material wealth is controlled by the adverse forces —and because they have not yet been converted to the Divine Influence, although the work has begun.
That victory will form part of the triumph of Truth.
Wealth should not be a personal property and should be at the disposal of the Divine for the welfare of all.
4.1.1968
When Mother says that wealth should not be a personal property, understand I that what should come is more a change of psychological attitude on the part of those who own money than any change in the law of property.
Undoubtedly.
Only the psychological change can be a solution.
6.1.1968
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The disciples of the Ashram have a sure and easy way to put their money at the disposal of the Divine: they offer it to the Mother.
But how can others do it ? Can one say that each one should get rid of the sense of property and spend his money according to the Divine command within, from time to time?
I am sure that if someone is advanced enough on the path to receive the knowledge that money is an impersonal power and should be used for the progress of the earth, this person will be developed enough inwardly to receive the knowledge of how to make the best possible use of the money.
8.1.1968
Four days ago, after midnight, I saw a rain of Light in Your room enveloping You. I saw it again the succeeding nights. Is it possible for me to bathe myself in this Light?
The Light is for all those who open themselves to it by sincere aspiration and self-giving.
I see nothing that may prevent you from bathing yourself in it.
13.1.1968
One morning when I was reading Your Words,
"And my body smiles at Thee with happiness as my soul was smiling before at Thee!"
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I saw a window opening on a beautiful and sublime horizon. But this horizon is very distant from me!
It will come.
One must not forget the number of years this body has lived. And now, what it accomplishes is contagious, and it passes its experience to others to the extent of their receptivity.
16.1.1968
The anxiety for my progress gives place to an aspiration: the aspiration to place myself in Your hands for You to knead my being as You want, O Divine Mother !
This is the best means and the quickest.
I accept the responsibility.
20.1.1968
Some days ago I wanted to begin each day of mine by making Pranam to you. Since then I get up with Your remembrance and I make my Pranam to You before anything else. It is Your Grace that has made this possible, and I hope that the Grace will hasten the constant remembrance.
Every day you will get my response and blessings for the day.
25.1.1968
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The day before yesterday, as I was arranging my vase for You, I said to a flower, "Oh, you are going to Mother!" and it really smiled. The same thing happened again yesterday and today.
That is very interesting indeed. Was it a rose or a hibiscus?
27.1.1968
A hibiscus gave me this experience.
Yes, it is a very conscious flower, I have had many proofs of it.
Is constant remembrance of the Divine the beginning of Union?
A beginning of union comes even before constant remembrance. When the remembrance is constant one often has the impression of a Presence that imposes itself on the remembrance.
29.1.1968
One day I spoke to You of the laziness of my body and it began to diminish. I hope that your Grace will now lead this very body to consecrate itself to You.
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This is quite certain. Aspire with ardour (but without impatience) and it will be soon.
2.2.1968
Speaking of the "Transcendent Mother" (and the upper petal of the Transformation flower), You have said, "The Transcendent is one and two (or dual) at the same time." What does this mean?
Beyond the creation lies the perfect Oneness, but potentially it contains duality, since the Mahashakti will manifest for the needs of the creation.
5.2.1968
Last Monday You spoke to me about the Transcendent which is one and two at the same time. Naturally, I shall wait for the true consciousness to come in order to have this knowledge. But yesterday I tried to note down what You had said: The mind thinks about things in succession. But beyond and above, everything exists at the same time. The One is both one and two; manifested and the un-manifested, everything exists at the same time. When It is objectified in the creation, in the manifestation, there is a succession: one, two. . . . But this is only a way of speaking. . . . There is no succession, no beginning. Beyond, in the perfect Oneness, all exists together, simultaneously. This cannot be under-
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stood, it must be experienced; one can have the experience of it.
Please correct these lines.
They are correct.
9.2.1968
I see in my heart a big bud, all white, around which arise lines of smoke like those from incense.
It is the symbol of your psychic being. And if the bud is that of a lotus, it means that your psychic being is aspiring to manifest the Divine Consciousness.
12.2.1968
As a trial we have written to the Government of India to register the Ashram as the owner of the copyright of one of Sri Aurobindo's works. Now I am filling the form for Mother's "Conversations". The form asks for the author's nationality. What nationality can I put? French?
Do not fill the form for my book or books. I do not claim any copyright and I refuse to reply to the question that has been asked.
It is true that this body was bom at Paris and that its soul declared that it was Indian, but I belong to no nation in Particular. And as the officials cannot understand it, I refuse to deal with them.
14.2.1968
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Is the earth the only planet on which money exists?
It is probable. All depends on the density of other planets. The astronomers can certainly say about it.
16.2.1968
One evening when I was saying, "Whatever You will, whatever You will, but You will make me realize the Divine", a voice rose from my heart, "Only whatever You will, whatever You will." (Mother underlined the words "rose. . .will" and answered:)
This, this is good—the true attitude and the most effective.
19.2.1968
This blessed day, O Mother Divine, lam before You, the forehead on the soil, the arms around Your feet in the hope of living there always and constantly.
Your aspiration will get its accomplishment.
21.2.1968
Now I can see the possibility of the dominance by You, by Your Love. Will Mother like to hasten the accomplishment ?
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All is going well—as fast as it can—for the being is multiple and the different parts have a sort of periodicity in their action—and the turn of each one has to be awaited so that nothing is neglected.
7.3.1968
What is the difference between an emanation and a formation?
These words do not apply to the physical world as it is at present.
The explanation is only an approximation. However, one could say that the emanation is made of the very substance of the emanatory, whereas the formation is made with a substance external to the formator.
To make a comparison, one could say that the emanation is like a child made of the substance of its mother and the formation is like a living statue made with a material external to the sculptor.
But naturally this is only a very approximate explanation.
11.3.1968
In the supramental world You are in a supramental body in a permanent way.
Here we see You in the human body.
What relation is there between these two bodies?
Very cordial, but not constant in the physical way. . .
19.3.1968
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The path is long, very long, almost interminable. But remaining at Your feet I am no longer inquiet.
It is true that the path is very long, but for one who follows it with sincerity, it is really very interesting, and at every step one is rewarded for one's trouble.
23.3.1968
It seems to me that the very land of Auroville aspires. Is it true, Sweet Mother?
Yes, the land itself has a consciousness, even though this consciousness is not intellectualised and cannot express itself.
21.3.1968
What relation is there between the wastage we (Your children) do and the shortage of money raising its head in the Ashram for years?
The relation of cause and effect.
The cure lies in a sincere consecration of each and all.
26.3.1968
Today You have shown me the basic incompatibility between human law and the Truth. But this is a problem that confronts me very often.
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Politics and so-called justice are still in humanity what is most closed to the Truth. But their turn for conversion will also come, perhaps sooner than we think.
28.3.1968
I asked myself: "What do you want to be?"
The reply came like an aspiration. . .
"Simply to be Mother's faithful child."
It is very good.
The door is open on supreme realisations.
30.3.1968
Can one say that all waste reflects a waste of consciousness?
Whatever be the waste, it is the result of an unconsciousness.
Consciousness in its Purity is perfect and infallible.
2.4.1968
The Upanishad says that when one sleeps, one reaches the pure Being. Does this apply only to the Yogi or to everyone?
In theory, it applies to everyone. But the vast majority of human beings fall into unconsciousness, and if there is a
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contact with the pure Being it is quite unconscious. The number of persons conscious of this rapport is exhaustingly small. It is usually the result of Yoga.
8.4.1968
I go to bed with Your remembrance and byYour Grace I get up with Your remembrance. But the sleep continues to be altogether unconscious.
During sleep the inner beings become consciously active. When one wakes up, it is the waking being that is not conscious of the activities of the night.
16.4.1968
In the quotation chosen for tomorrow1, Sri Aurobindo speaks of the Truth that seeks todescendupon us and is already there within us. Please explain this paradox, which, as I can feel, is only apparent.
It is not a paradox.
It is the same phenomenon as for the Divine who is at the centre of our being, etc., and is at the same time beyond the creation and towards whom the whole creation is moving, but whom it could never reach if it did not carry him within itself.
1 In the spiritual order of things, the higher we project our view and our aspiration, the greater the Truth that seeks to descend upon us, because it is already there within us and calls for its release from the covering that conceals it in manifested Nature.
Sri Aurobindo
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One must go beyond notions of space and Matter to be able to understand.
23.4.1968
Two days ago I was praying to You to give me a new birth and yesterday You sent me leaves of the same significance. Can I take them as Your "Yes"?
Naturally. It is my answer to your prayer which was heard.
25.4.1968
Yesterday, coming down from Your room I could not stop my tears. There are bonds attached to me, rather it is myself attached to them. Only Your Grace, O Divine Mother, can do what needs to be done.
You must not be unquiet. When the hour of liberation will arrive, it will be done most naturally—without tears.
6.5.1968
I have been wanting to offer You something nice, but I find nothing except my weaknesses and imperfections. . .
That, that is the best offering, because it makes a progress for the whole of the earth.
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This morning when I was thinking of writing to You about my night of bonds and attachments that began three weeks ago, I felt that truly speaking these things had been there since long and now Your Grace has shown them to me for the next step.
Mother, for me the night has already been long enough. But it matters little if I can continue to hold on to Your feet.
According to my experience, one should not try to destroy or to eliminate. One should concentrate all one's effort on building up and strengthening the true consciousness and it is this consciousness that will automatically do the work of unifying the being.
In this way, everything that has to be transformed will be transformed quite naturally without clash or damage.
13.5.1968
How can one hasten the day when the whole being will be able to say, "I am Yours, only Yours"?
There are two actions which in practice merge into one.
1)Never forget the goal one wants to attain.
2)Never allow any part of the being or any of its movements to contradict one's aspiration.
This also makes it necessary to become conscious of one's nights, because the activities of the night often contradict the aspiration of the day and undo its work.
Vigilance, sincerity, continuity of effort, and the Grace will do the rest.
20.5.1968
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Even "good and innocent movements" are said to take on different coolers in the light of the psychic flame.
It is the very notion of good and bad that changes completely.
One can say very simply that all that leads closer to the Divine is good, and all that leads away from the Divine is bad.
There are many virtues that lead away from the Divine by making men satisfied with what they are.
22.5.1968
Sri Aurobindo has written in Savitri:
"Yes, there are happy ways near to God's sun;
But few are they who tread the sunlit path;
Only the pure in soul can walk in light.
What a fortune it would be to possess the required
purity!
When one is living among men with all their miseries, it is only the Grace that can bestow this state—even in those who have abolished their ego bytapasyā.
It is beyond all personal effort.
27.5.1968
What is the most effective way to overcome the ego?
1 Savitri(1912), p. 448
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The simplest and most effective way is to offer it to the Divine; the more sincere and radical the offering, the speedier the result.
28.5.1968
Now I can conceive that the Divine is all and everywhere, but I do not have the experience of it.
Because He is not on the surface and the appearance is false.
But if you concentrate in the psychic you will feel at once that He is there, everywhere, luminous, radiant, vibrant with force and love, and that without Him nothing could be.
30.5.1968
To remain turned upwards and to live in the true consciousness—the two seem complementary to each other.
Are they not two ways of saying the same thing?— certainly two ways of doing the same thing.
3.6.1968
Who should be put on guard to give the alert: "Be careful! Look upwards."?
It is what is usually called conscience but in fact it is the
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psychic being. And one can hear it only when one is very attentive, because it is not very loud.
5.6.1968
Your Presence makes itself felt concretely, almost in a materially concrete way. But, for me this is still quite rare.
It is good — be attentive and it will go on increasing.
10,6.1968
Is transparent sincerity a more effective, indispensable means, or is it a realisation in itself?
Without sincerity nothing can be done. With total sincerity everything is possible.
What is the origin of man's love for his own ignorance?It is inconscience.
Inconscience is the negation of all effort. Ignorance (that is, the acknowledgement that there is something to be known which we do not know) is the first effect of the divine influence on the inconscient.
15.6.1968
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Sri Aurobindo speaks of Savitri's firmness of purpose in the following line:
"Immutable like a fixed eternal star."1 Can one say that such determination is demanded of the sadhak who aspires for transformation?
This is the great mystery of creation: immutable and yet eternally renewed.
17.6.1968
What should I do to walk on the way without stumbling?
Fear nothing.
22.6.1968
Savitri says:
"Not only is there hope for godheads pure:
The violent and darkened deities
Leaped down from the one breast in rage to find
What the white gods had missed: they too are
safe;
A Mother's eyes are on them and her arms
Stretched out in love desire her rebel sons. "2
What had the white gods missed?
The conversion of the Asuras.
1Savitri (1972),p. 606.
2Ibid,p. 613.
24.6.1968
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Isn't the power of the Asuras as boundless as the power of the gods ?
The vibrations of evil are in truth less powerful than the vibrations of good.
26.6.1968
Can one say that total sincerity and the abolition of ego are closely interdependent?
Only the Supreme Lord is perfectly sincere. And when the ego is abolished, only the Supreme Lord exists.
28.6.1968
I can see that in spiritual life, even to sit down is to fall back. But most often I sit down without knowing it!
This is so true that one could rightly say: even while sleeping one must move forward.
But there comes a time when the ascent becomes a perfect repose.
2.7.1968
Yesterday Mother said, "Even while one sleeps one must move forward." But I am so poor that I have not yet succeeded in making my sleep conscious, and the night continues to be free to undo the work of the day.
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Have you tried a small prayer before going to sleep A prayer that the sleep may become an offering of the physical being to the Supreme Consciousness.
3.7.1968
Once Mother spoke to me about total sincerity. What does transparent sincerity mean?
Sincerity is compared to an atmosphere or a sheet of glass. If the one or the other is completely transparent, it lets the light through without distorting it.
Similarly, a sincere consciousness lets the divine vibrations through without distorting them.
8.7.1968
Can an individual achieve transformation even if the universe continues to be as it is?
In the evolution, the individual is far ahead of the earth, but as long as he lives on earth there is a certain interdependence. But the condition of the earth is sure to become such that a supramental being will soon be able to live on it.
9.7.1968
I have not been able to make total surrender and I do not feel happy, I feel an emptiness. . .
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patiently, unflaggingly, the false movement, to what ever state of being it belongs, should be put in the presence of the Truth-Consciousness for it to do the needful.
11.7.1968
What is the best attitude with which I should come to You?
To be happy.
25.7.1968
The Buddha said that Nirvana results in the cessation of rebirth. But isn't the Divine always free to send back into the manifestation the spark that extinguishes itself in Him?
Of course, each time one makes a rule one makes a mistake.
Besides, although he did not take up another physical body, the Buddha himself returned to work in the earth-atmosphere.
26.7.1968
If the universe is one, shouldn't the liberation of one single person on earth have the power to liberate everyone?
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Oneness means identity in origin; but in the manifestation each entity follows its own path of conscious return to the Oneness.
28.9.1968
In 1953 Mother said: "Whatever the way one follows, whether it be the religious way, the philosophical way, the yogic ways, the mystic way, no one has realised transformation."1
Can one hope that the sadhaks have now made good progress towards this goal?
Now the conditions are such that every sincere effort must necessarily tend towards this goal.
30.9.1968
How can one collaborate in the transformation?
Things are now arranged in such a way that as soon as one collaborates for the Divine Dawn in any form, one necessarily collaborates in the transformation.
7.10.1968
The Divine is the goal, the path and the one who treads the path. But isn't a person who is not advancing towards the Divine also the Divine?
1 Questions and Answers1953 (1976), p. 83.
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All are the Divine, but very few are those who know it 'and fewer still are those who want to realise it consciously. This explains the long duration and difficulty of the creation if its goal is that all and everything should once more become consciously divine.
14.10.1968
One would like to have the fundamental realisation that the Divine is all and everything.
For that one must identify oneself with the Supreme Divine.
Once one is identified, when one turns towards the creation, one sees and knows that the Divine alone exists both in the Essence and in the manifestation.
16.10.1968
Is immunity to the attack of adverse forces possible without transformation?
Immunity does not come automatically from transformation.
One has to cut off all connection with the manifested world in order to be immune.
But in any case, transformation gives the power of victory.
18.10.1968
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Now the sleep becomes more calm. I can keep there a little more of my aspiration, a little more of Your remembrance. Is this the beginning, though very small, of the desired change for the nights?
Yes, it is a good beginning. The nights will thus become more and more conscious.
20.10.1968
Is Divine Love equal for all even in the manifestation ?
Yes, equal and immutable.
But it is the capacity to perceive and receive it and the habit of distorting it that are different in each one.
22.10.1968
"The ideal Sadhaka should be able to say in the Biblical phrase, 'My zeal for the Lord has eaten me up.'"1
Does this mean an intense, constant and integral aspiration ?
Yes, it means that the entire being is absorbed in its consecration.
24.10.1968
Does the subconscient go on recording during sleep ?
1 Sri Aurobindo, The Synthesis of Yoga (1972), p. 52.
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For most people, in their sleep, it is precisely what has been recorded in the subconscient during the day or previously which becomes active again and constitutes their dreams.
26.10.1968
Looking at the push being given to me by Mother towards transformation, and at my banality and mediocrity, I am reminded of this line of "Savitri": "All can be done if the God-touch is there."
As soon as one has a contact with the divine Consciousness, this mediocrity of the outer being becomes obvious, but the promise of Savitri is true and will be fulfilled.
28.10.1968
Perhaps now Your Grace will like to help me make the surrender of all my being in love and joy.
Yes, the hour is near when it will be possible and you will have the joy of total consecration.
30.10.1968
Each time that I come to You I should make of it an occasion to progress towards the goal.
Aswapathy was very fortunate. For him,
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"Each day was a spiritual romance,
Each happening was a deep experience."' 1
This possibility is open to all whose aspiration is fervent.
.1.11.1968
How can one keep what You give!
It does not go away but enters the subconscient and continues to act.
To remain conscious of it, one must reduce the range of the subconscient within oneself and thus increase the consciousness.
3.11.1968
What should one do to reduce the range of the subconscient?
To grow in consciousness is the very purpose of life on earth. It is through the experience of successive lives that the range of the subconscient is gradually reduced.
By Yoga and the effort to find the Divine in oneself and in life, the work is considerably accelerated and can be accomplished in a few years.
1Savitri (1972), pp. 30, 31.
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"A knowledge which became what it perceived,
Replaced the separated sense and heart
And drew all Nature into its embrace."1
Is Sri Aurobindo referring here to knowledge by
identity?
Yes, it is a very exact description.
7.11.1968
"A greater force than the earthly held his limbs,
Unwound the triple cord of mind and freed
The heavenly wideness of a Godhead's gaze."2
What does "the triple cord of mind " mean?
The cords symbolise the limitations of the mind; and there are three of them because there is a physical mind, it vital mind and a mental mind.
9.11.1968
"The days were travelers on a destined road, The nights companions of his musing spirit.'3
Yes, there comes a time when nothing, absolutely nothing is; outside the Yoga and the Divine's Presence is felt and found in all things and all circumstances.
11.11.1968
1 Savitri ([972), p. 28.
2Ibid.,(1972), p. 82.
3Ibid.,p. 43.
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When I feel an emptiness or uneasiness, often I find that I had forgotten the Divine.
It is just the sign of the forgetting—or rather its consequence which becomes more and more clear and precise as one progresses, until the time comes when one never forgets any more and the feeling of the Divine Presence is constant.
"A last high world was seen where all worlds meet; In its sunmmit gleam where Night is not nor Sleep, The light began of the Trinity supreme."1
Is the "Trinity supreme" Sachchidananda?
15.11.1968
By Krishna's Grace, Arjuna realised the cosmic Divine and Virat in the twinkling of an eye. What a good Guru and what a good disciple?
Speed is not necessarily a sign of superiority.
These "instantaneous" conversions are most often the result of lives of preparation.
1 Savitri(1972), p. 89
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"Our body's cells must hold the Immortal's flame."
Is this the secret of the luminous body?
It is a poetic way of expressing the transformation which has to take place and which is more complicated than that.
19.11.68
It seems to me, Mother, that when man does not accept the Divine, it is more out of ignorance than out of wickedness? Isn't it so?
It is undoubtedly out of ignorance and fear of what he doesn't know.
It is only the Asuras and a few great hostile beings who refuse or oppose the Divine even though they know what He is.
21.11.1968
Your child Shyam Sundar must accomplish the three "S": Sincerity, Surrender and Spontaneity.
Very good — we are going to work for it with such ardour that the result will be obtained
in 6 x 6 days minimum
or 3 x 3 months at the most.
Blessings.
' Savitri (1972), p. 35.
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It seems to me, Mother, that the flame that calls and the flame that responds are one and the same.
Essentially, they are the same; but the plenitude of the response far exceeds the intensity of the call. The response always exceeds our receptivity by far.
25.11.1968
Can one say, Mother, that perfect receptivity comes only with constant union with the Divine?
If we call "perfect receptivity" the receptivity that receives only the Divine Influence and no other, certainly it is perfect purity at the same time.
That is what we should strive for.
27.11.1968
"None can reach heaven who has not passed through hell."1
But still, Mother, doesn't the soul chosen by the Divine
go through hell in a different way than others?
This quotation means that in order to reach the divine regions one must, while on earth, pass through the vital, which in some of its parts is a veritable hell. But those who have surrendered to the Divine and have been adopted by Him are surrounded by the divine protection and for them the passage is not difficult.
29.11.1968
1Savitri (1972), p. 227.
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Yesterday, Mother, I had had some perception thatS.J even the body can remember You,
Here is something very good. It is a good beginning. And the body's remembrance is much more stable than ?he mind's or the vitals'.
1.12.1968
"His failure is not failure whom God leads"1
Because it is part of the play?
It is the human mind that has the conception of success and failure. It is the human mind that wants one thing and does not want another. In the divine plan each thing has its Pace and importance. So it is not success that matters. What matters is to be a docile and if possible a conscious instrument of the Divine Will.
To be and to do what the Divine wants, this is truly the important thing.
3.12.1968
"The one original transcendent Shakti, the Mother stands above all the worlds and bears in her eternal consciousness the Supreme Divine. "2
Similarly, can one say that the Supreme Divine carries the Mother in his eternal consciousness?
1Savitri (1912),p. 339
2Sri Aurobindo, The Mother (1972), p. 20
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Beyond all question.
They are ONE in essence and manifestation.
5.12.1968
Can the ego not consent to its own abolition ?
The ego was created for the work of individualisation; when the work is achieved, it is not unusual for the ego to accept its dissolution of its own accord.
7.12.1968
The aspiration of this morning: May I do nothing to delay the manifestation for which Sri Aurobindo sacrificed his body.
Yes, his work is in the course of accomplishment ineluctably, and it is our own participation that we can make more and more perfect, if we know how to put no obstacle to the Grace.
9.12.1968
The human pleasure of possession is a perversion of what, Mother?
All pleasures are perversions by egoistic limitation of the Ananda which is the raison d'être of the universal manifestation.
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"When we eat, we should be conscious that we are
giving our food to that Presence in us. . . ."1
When I try to take this attitude, the food tastes
better and the atmosphere becomes quieter.
The presence is always there whatever we do and it is because of ignorance, negligence or absent-mindedness that we do not feel it. But each time that we are attentive and concentrated, we become aware of a wonderful transformation in all things.
13.12.1968
Without being able to feel constantly Your presence, O Divine Mother, the life is no longer joyous. But also, something protects it from being sad.
It is so because the Presence is constant, be it felt or not, and its protection is constant and effective, even when it is not perceived.
15.12.1968
In order to be conscious of the constant Presence, is memory helpful?
Memory is a mental faculty and helps the mental consciousness. But feeling and sensation must also participate.
17.12.1968
1 Sri Aurobindo, The Synthesis of Yoga (1972), p. 103.
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When the Presence becomes concrete, does this indicate the participation of feeling and sensation?
To have the perception of the presence the participation of feeling is indispensable, and when sensation collaborates, then the perception becomes concrete and tangible.
19.12.1968
"All things shall change in God's transfiguring hour."1
Can man delay or hasten the coming of this hour?
Neither the one nor the other in their apparent contradiction created by the divisive consciousness, but something else which our words cannot express.
In the present state of human consciousness, it is good for it to think that aspiration and human effort can hasten the advent of the divine transformation, because effort and aspiration are needed for the transformation to occur.
21.12.1968
The Upanishad says: "When That is known, all is known."
All is known in its essential truth or also in detail?
In its essential truth, but one usually keeps the perception of the illusory appearance at the same time.
23.12.1968
1Savitri (1972), p. 341.
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It seems to me that to know things in detail, the ordinary instrumentation is necessary for the Yogi too, but that the Yogi puts this knowledge to the test of the essential truth.
Yes, one can put in that way. But above all it is the attitude towards the outer appearance that changes com-
25.12.1968
In fact, Mother, what is the Yogi's attitude towards outer appearance?
The usefulness of seeing clearly instead of being blind. The usefulness of not being deceived any more by outer appearances.
The usefulness of knowing the true raison d'être of life instead of living in ignorance and falsehood.
27.12.1968
Is the perception of the illusory appearance automatic for the Yogi?
That probably depends on the Yogi and his condition.
But when one is united with the Supreme Consciousness and when the body is in the course of transformation, the body keeps its automatic perception of the outer world, but this perception is more complete than the ordinary one, as if it revealed something of its content.
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Therefore, Mother, the transformation of the body is necessary even to live in the Integral Knowledge!
Certainly.
In Sri Aurobindo's yoga, the transformation of the body is indispensable so far as it can be done. Because the aim of this yoga is not an escape from but a divinisation of the physical consciousness.
31.12.1968
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