Sri Aurobindo : conversations
THEME/S
APRIL, 1943
16th April, 1943
General Tokezyswaki : Polish leader came through Umadevi, a Polish lady.
17th April, 1943
General Tokezyswaki saw Mother at 3-30 for nearly an hour.
1. Synthesis of Elements of different cultures.
2. Nearly 3500 Polish refugees in India.
3. One or two hours to himself for reading about this literature.
Sri Aurobindo : "Such men will find great difficulties after the war because the peace seems much more difficult – war is difficult enough".
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From the notes.
18th April, 1943
In Russia before the war there were 18 million in prison – 1/10th of the population!!
General Tokezyswaki had been to Russia – because he was a Socialist. What he saw disillusioned him. He was even imprisoned in Russia.
The spy system in Russia is very extensive. Each man who is somebody is watched by three men.
In the army also one who does not fight has to face execution.
American politicians want to retain their hold over North Africa if they can – to ensure payment of their money. They would even like to have Persia and Iraque.
So, the peace is not likely to be a very easy affair.
Spiritual cure – method described – Blue ray – directed to the patient – Washes his own hands. Astral body seen near the patient.
19th April, 1943
Spirit communication – Desire to continue the family life of Earth. There are such spirits who like a reproduction of the life on Earth.
Got tired of the same wife and husband.
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Divorce suit in the other world. The husbands might ask if the wives are Satis!
Letter from Dilip – with Krishnaprem's. Whether every time a Sadhaka makes personal effort can it be said that it is to satisfy the Ego.
Sri Aurobindo : No, it can be to subordinate the Ego to the Divine. If it is to seek power or to satisfy some other impulse then personal effort may have egoistic origin.
Disciple : Could one make the surrender to a Guru whose outer nature is imperfect?
Sri Aurobindo : It has nothing to do with any human standards – moral or mental. Most often it is the Ego that says that 'this fellow has got this defect, I won't surrender to him.'
Disciple : But the very act of accepting some one as Guru requires some perception or feeling or experience of the Divine in the person?
Sri Aurobindo : Not necessarily. It may be only a belief in the Divinity of the Guru.
That way it can be argued that God is imperfect because the exterior working in this world is full of imperfections, ignorance, suffering, etc. All these things do not count. The question is whether the Divinity in the Guru can awaken the Divine in the disciple.
Vivekananda was conscious of Ramkrishna's shortcomings and his mind was very agnostic. So it took him years and he was fighting with himself before he accepted Ramkrishna.
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